Crusader1969 Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Keep seeing these threads about next years line up and these posters act like they forgot about JJ What does the man have to do in order us to put him in the same breathe as Quinn and put him in pen in 22/23 the kid is going to be a star. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got something to say But nothing comes out when they move their lips Just a bunch of gibberish And sabrespacers act like they forgot about JJ 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: Keep seeing these threads about next years line up and these posters act like they forgot about JJ What does the man have to do in order us to put him in the same breathe as Quinn and put him in pen in 22/23 the kid is going to be a star. Same breath as Quinn? Quinn has been 50% more productive. I get it, he has been very good in the AHL, but he is a 20 year old in his first NA season. I’m sure he will get NHL time next season, but he doesn’t need to be gifted a spot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted April 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Just now, Curt said: Same breath as Quinn? Quinn has been 50% more productive. I get it, he has been very good in the AHL, but he is a 20 year old in his first NA season. I’m sure he will get NHL time next season, but he doesn’t need to be gifted a spot. Gifted?? The kid is 10th in AHL scoring. He carried the Amerks on his back when the team was devastated by injuries. Last night when the team was desperate for a win, it was JJ making unbelievable skilled plays to get the team going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: Gifted?? The kid is 10th in AHL scoring. He carried the Amerks on his back when the team was devastated by injuries. Last night when the team was desperate for a win, it was JJ making unbelievable skilled plays to get the team going I mean, if you want grab ahold of one word that I used in a common phrase and consternate over that, then go ahead. Like I said: 13 minutes ago, Curt said: Same breath as Quinn? Quinn has been 50% more productive. I get it, he has been very good in the AHL, but he is a 20 year old in his first NA season. I’m sure he will get NHL time next season, but he doesn’t need to be gifted a spot. I’m guessing that when the Sabres feel that it’s best for both JJ and the team for him to be in the NHL, he will be. Maybe that’s opening game of 2022-23, but maybe it’s not. I get that you feel extremely confident that he should be in the NHL, but lots of players do things in the AHL that they can’t do in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 I’m very excited about what I’ve heard from our Roch fans. JJ numbers really are pretty unbelievable, especially considering it’s his first year in NA as has been pointed out. Will be fun watching the development of so many of these young guys and I have JJ near the top of that list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Curt said: Same breath as Quinn? Quinn has been 50% more productive. I get it, he has been very good in the AHL, but he is a 20 year old in his first NA season. I’m sure he will get NHL time next season, but he doesn’t need to be gifted a spot. I think his point is that JJ is being overlooked in part because of how good Quinn is. I crunched the numbers elsewhere on here a week or two ago, JJ is having one of the best D2 seasons in Sabres/Amerks history. He’s ahead of Ennis and Vanek, players who went on to put up nearly 50 points in the NHL the following year. Statistically speaking, it would be shocking if he’s not in the NHL next year. Guys don’t produce the way he is at his age and not make the step. Like, it literally has never happened in the past 25 years. Edited April 10, 2022 by dudacek 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Curt said: Same breath as Quinn? Quinn has been 50% more productive. I get it, he has been very good in the AHL, but he is a 20 year old in his first NA season. I’m sure he will get NHL time next season, but he doesn’t need to be gifted a spot. Yeah but Quinn doesn’t rhyme with Dre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted April 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, dudacek said: I think his point is that JJ is being overlooked in part because of how good Quinn is. I crunched the numbers elsewhere on here a week or two ago, JJ is having one of the best D2 seasons in Sabres/Amerks history. He’s ahead of Ennis and Vanek, players who went on to put up nearly 50 points in the NHL the following year. Statistically speaking, it would be shocking if he’s not in the NHL next year. Guys don’t produce the way he is at his age and not make the step. Like, it literally has never happened in the past 25 years. Exactly. Most posts that predict the Sabres 22/23 lineup includes Quinn (which they should) but don’t have JJ. Or say JJ to start in AHL. let’s start to give the kid his due. He needs to be in the Sabres top 9 next year. He is that good Skinner Thompson Tuch Quinn Cozens Krebs JJ Mitts Olofsson Girgs Asplund Okposo Vinny will be 13th forward if he returns Edited April 10, 2022 by Crusader1969 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Peterka is very good and we should be excited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 My man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Anyone who forgot JJP should bring flowers and sing I'm Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Peterka is very good and we should be excited. People came away from that draft angry because of the Quinn pick instead of Rossi. They only had 5 selections but right now coming away with Quinn and Peterka is looking like a major coup. Edited April 10, 2022 by Flashsabre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 By the way, just asking for a friend but who forgot about JJP?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 44 minutes ago, jsb said: Anyone who forgot JJP should bring flowers and sing I'm Sorry He's not dead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmoe Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, jsb said: By the way, just asking for a friend but who forgot about JJP?? I didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 For those who have watched him play is he ready to play an NHL two-way game? Most of the reports about him indicate that offensively he is ready to play in this league. Is he ready to play in the NHL without being a deficit when he is defending his zone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, jsb said: By the way, just asking for a friend but who forgot about JJP?? Nobody. He's been mentioned as a part of next years roster every time next year's roster has been mentioned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, JohnC said: For those who have watched him play is he ready to play an NHL two-way game? Most of the reports about him indicate that offensively he is ready to play in this league. Is he ready to play in the NHL without being a deficit when he is defending his zone? No, but not many rookies are at his age. I think it can be coached into him and I see it more as a lack of focus or attention on the defensive side. He prefers to let the defense play defense while he anticipates fast strike offense. It leads to alot of fun to watch offensive hockey and an occasional frustrating shift in the defensive end. Meatballs will require his buy in to the team defensive game and his teammates will not let him cheat as much in the NHL imo. I don't think they will try to completely stutter his offensive instincts because that's what makes him special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, SwampD said: Nobody. He's been mentioned as a part of next years roster every time next year's roster has been mentioned. Now that he has been properly propped up on Sabrespace he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, Norcal said: No, but not many rookies are at his age. I think it can be coached into him and I see it more as a lack of focus or attention on the defensive side. He prefers to let the defense play defense while he anticipates fast strike offense. It leads to alot of fun to watch offensive hockey and an occasional frustrating shift in the defensive end. Meatballs will require his buy in to the team defensive game and his teammates will not let him cheat as much in the NHL imo. I don't think they will try to completely stutter his offensive instincts because that's what makes him special. Thank you for the JJ response. Let me add a follow up question. It's been widely reported about Quinn's offensive prowess. How is his defensive game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, JohnC said: Thank you for the JJ response. Let me add a follow up question. It's been widely reported about Quinn's offensive prowess. How is his defensive game? Effort is not his problem but maybe consistency? He's already shown alot of grit and effort along the walls and on the backcheck and he'll get better as he gets stronger imo Disclaimer: opinions may differ from mine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 52 minutes ago, Norcal said: Effort is not his problem but maybe consistency? He's already shown alot of grit and effort along the walls and on the backcheck and he'll get better as he gets stronger imo Disclaimer: opinions may differ from mine You don't need to provide a disclaimer. When opinions of Amerk players are solicited you are one of the two or three go to guys. You are a member of the AHL/Amerk wisdom club. That means in that area you are astute and perspicacious. 🍺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 3 hours ago, jsb said: By the way, just asking for a friend but who forgot about JJP?? I've not forgotten, but I haven't advocated trading VO just to gift JJP and Quinn an automatic spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 How's rossi doing these days, is everyone still upset by the Quinn pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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