bob_sauve28 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Assuming no big trades, I can see a bunch of players that could hit that mark. Jack, Sam, Ollie, R2, Casey, Tage, Asplund (he had seven this year in under half a season) Skinner? and Bjork Thats nine players with possible 20 goal potential. That’s good! Even if only five hit that mark, that’s pretty good. Of course injuries, ice time and just simple set backs happen. If Casey, Jack, Sam and Ollie stay healthy I’m sure that’s at least four players right there who will most likely break the 20 goal mark. Say what hat you want, but there is potential here for a really good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 If sam and jack 😑 I see cozens, casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Who will be the coach? What will his system be? Will the lines have chemistry? Who will be traded? Who will be brought in? Who will be the goaltending duo? Will players miss significant time with injury? Will any have a significant goal scoring slump? Will any partake in slump busting? If I can get those answers, I can probably predict with any level of accuracy if any player will reach 20+ goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 From this group, the only one I see possibly scoring 20 for the Sabres next year is Casey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted May 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Zamboni said: 1 Who will be the coach? 2 What will his system be? 3 Will the lines have chemistry? 4 Who will be traded? 5 Who will be brought in? 6 Who will be the goaltending duo? 7 Will players miss significant time with injury? 8 Will any have a significant goal scoring slump? 9 Will any partake in slump busting? If I can get those answers, I can probably predict with any level of accuracy if any player will reach 20+ goals. 1 Donny G 2 Same as end of this season 3 Yes 4 No one 5 No one --maybe the top pick 6 Well, since I have a crystal ball 😇Ullmark resigned, Halak brought in, and by some miracle Sabastian Cossa makes it to Sabres second rough pick and we nab him. 7 Yes, Casey will have a back issue and miss 10 games, Ollie will break a finger and miss 11 games but Jeff Skinner will play every game! 8 Oh yes, Sam will start off slow again, but he will be fine 9 Not sure what this is 😐 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, dudacek said: From this group, the only one I see possibly scoring 20 for the Sabres next year is Casey. Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, Radar said: Seriously? Jack won’t be here, Sam won’t be here, Victor won’t get 12 on the PP thanks to Jack, trading Jack removes all hope of Skinner ever scoring 20 again, Asplund and Bjork aren’t good enough to ever score 20 in the NHL. Tage and R2 might find it in them, (under the Weave/PA principle of how garbage fills a hockey vacuum) but I can’t say they’ve shown enough to bet on it; they’ve scarcely proven themselves NHL regulars. Casey’s a long shot too, but at least he has the hands and showed he can create on his own in a prominent role. If we trade Jack and Sam for futures, this team is going to struggle to score goals next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, dudacek said: From this group, the only one I see possibly scoring 20 for the Sabres next year is Casey. You are being exceedingly pessimistic. If Granato is retained and his fast paced style of play is installed I can see at least 4 to 5 players reaching the 20 goal mark. Of course the assumption is that our top two players aren't dealt. With Jack back to full health and form there should be a lot more PP goals that should be generated and provide other players with stats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, dudacek said: Jack won’t be here, Sam won’t be here, Victor won’t get 12 on the PP thanks to Jack, trading Jack removes all hope of Skinner ever scoring 20 again, Asplund and Bjork aren’t good enough to ever score 20 in the NHL. Tage and R2 might find it in them, (under the Weave/PA principle of how garbage fills a hockey vacuum) but I can’t say they’ve shown enough to bet on it; they’ve scarcely proven themselves NHL regulars. Casey’s a long shot too, but at least he has the hands and showed he can create on his own in a prominent role. If we trade Jack and Sam for futures, this team is going to struggle to score goals next year. Okay. But his (big) assumption was with no big trades. I'm not as big on VO as many. Still see him a PP specialist. Also see him as part of a trade possibly. Edited May 23, 2021 by Radar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, Radar said: Okay. But his (big) assumption was with no big trades. If Jack and Sam stay, they will each get 20-plus. Victor probably will too. There is also a chance for Skinner and Casey, but I suspect 15 will be more likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, dudacek said: If Jack and Sam stay, they will each get 20-plus. Victor probably will too. There is also a chance for Skinner and Casey, but I suspect 15 will be more likely. I really hope both Jack and Sam stay. Seems odds against it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 The OP says no trades and Granato as coach, so ... Jack, Sam, VO (all on the PP), Casey (probably), Dylan (maybe), and Skinner. Others, named in the OP as possible, will be just short and in the 15 - 19 range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 11 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said: Assuming no big trades, I can see a bunch of players that could hit that mark. Jack, Sam, Ollie, R2, Casey, Tage, Asplund (he had seven this year in under half a season) Skinner? and Bjork Thats nine players with possible 20 goal potential. That’s good! Even if only five hit that mark, that’s pretty good. Of course injuries, ice time and just simple set backs happen. If Casey, Jack, Sam and Ollie stay healthy I’m sure that’s at least four players right there who will most likely break the 20 goal mark. Say what hat you want, but there is potential here for a really good team. Way too early to say. We might not have Jack or Sam. We might have other players. Mitts, Tage and Olofsson could all hit 20 in the right circumstance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 If absolutely everything goes right... if the stars align... in a best case scenario... if luck is on our side... forsaking any injuries... if the young guns take the next step... if the old dogs can keep up... every offseason the following season is dependant on gypsy fortune tellers and the magic 8 ball. Take the mystery out of the equation and build a team damn it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Sam is a given. Skinner and VO if Jack returns, but VO only is Sam is the 1st line center instead. Casey also. If we do trade Jack or Same, the RW we get back will also score 20. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 6 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Sam is a given. Skinner and VO if Jack returns, but VO only is Sam is the 1st line center instead. Casey also. If we do trade Jack or Same, the RW we get back will also score 20. No love for R2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Just now, bob_sauve28 said: No love for R2? More of a passer then goal scorer in his career so far and we actually need playmakers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 51 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: More of a passer then goal scorer in his career so far and we actually need playmakers Wasn't he leading Liiga in goals before coming over this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 23 hours ago, dudacek said: Jack won’t be here, Sam won’t be here, Victor won’t get 12 on the PP thanks to Jack, trading Jack removes all hope of Skinner ever scoring 20 again, Asplund and Bjork aren’t good enough to ever score 20 in the NHL. Tage and R2 might find it in them, (under the Weave/PA principle of how garbage fills a hockey vacuum) but I can’t say they’ve shown enough to bet on it; they’ve scarcely proven themselves NHL regulars. Casey’s a long shot too, but at least he has the hands and showed he can create on his own in a prominent role. If we trade Jack and Sam for futures, this team is going to struggle to score goals next year. Yep. By design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 23 hours ago, dudacek said: Jack won’t be here, Sam won’t be here, Victor won’t get 12 on the PP thanks to Jack, trading Jack removes all hope of Skinner ever scoring 20 again, Asplund and Bjork aren’t good enough to ever score 20 in the NHL. Tage and R2 might find it in them, (under the Weave/PA principle of how garbage fills a hockey vacuum) but I can’t say they’ve shown enough to bet on it; they’ve scarcely proven themselves NHL regulars. Casey’s a long shot too, but at least he has the hands and showed he can create on his own in a prominent role. If we trade Jack and Sam for futures, this team is going to struggle to score goals next year. I’m not so sure Asplund doesn’t have the ability to pot 20 in his best season. I wouldn’t count on it but I’m not writing it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 8. Jack Sam Dahlin VO Cozens Mitts Skinner Okposo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Wasn't he leading Liiga in goals before coming over this year? He sure looks like a natural goal scorer, great shot, finds the soft spot in the defense. He is a good player and goal scorer, at least so far. 9 minutes ago, Mustache of God said: 8. Jack Sam Dahlin VO Cozens Mitts Skinner Okposo Kyle? He really did look better under Donny G. Not sure he pots 20 again though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: He sure looks like a natural goal scorer, great shot, finds the soft spot in the defense. He is a good player and goal scorer, at least so far. Kyle? He really did look better under Donny G. Not sure he pots 20 again though Darkhorse candidate for 21-22. My list is more of a "I hope this happens" and not "I think this will happen" because without hope what's the point of being a fan? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 9 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Sam is a given. Skinner and VO if Jack returns, but VO only is Sam is the 1st line center instead. Casey also. If we do trade Jack or Same, the RW we get back will also score 20. Not if we trade for a players like Sobotka and Berglund. The emerging wingers are Thompson and Cozens. Not Skinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Not if we trade for a players like Sobotka and Berglund. The emerging wingers are Thompson and Cozens. Not Skinner. I hope we keep our best prospective centre at centre, myself 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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