Randall Flagg Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Curt said: We were discussing story this in here yesterday (page 72-74). Its an interesting report. However, it does run a little counter to a previous report that Adams was looking to get 4 pieces of 1st round pick type value. The 2 regular prospects in that rumor likely wouldn't have first round value. Just guys to give depth to prospect pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: The 2 regular prospects in that rumor likely wouldn't have first round value. Just guys to give depth to prospect pool What prospects in the rumor. There were no prospects rumored in the piece by that FloridaHockeyNow guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Anyone who says Columbus is an attractive trade partner, is an imbecile. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Curt said: What prospects in the rumor. There were no prospects rumored in the piece by that FloridaHockeyNow guy. I'm talking bout the 1 forward under 24, 1 D under 24, blue chipprospect, first rounder, and 2 prospects. Is there another rumor? I had only heard this and 4 firsts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I'm talking bout the 1 forward under 24, 1 D under 24, blue chipprospect, first rounder, and 2 prospects. Is there another rumor? I had only heard this and 4 firsts No, you have it right. I just misunderstood you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, TheCerebral1 said: Anyone who says Columbus is an attractive trade partner, is an imbecile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, TheCerebral1 said: Anyone who says Columbus is an attractive trade partner, is an imbecile. Maybe for Eichel, but what about Merzlikins and their 1st for Reinhart? Or something similar. More rumours around about Chicago. I have to admit the idea of Dach coming here in some package gets me a little excited. The current rumours also have the Eichel price way too high (saying as many as 6 picks and players as a return) for most and I assume KA is just negotiating and the expansion draft deadline plays into things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: Maybe for Eichel, but what about Merzlikins and their 1st for Reinhart? Or something similar. More rumours around about Chicago. I have to admit the idea of Dach coming here in some package gets me a little excited. The current rumours also have the Eichel price way too high (saying as many as 6 picks and players as a return) for most and I assume KA is just negotiating and the expansion draft deadline plays into things. I don't understand acquiring a mid to late 20's goalie. First, this team is not going to be good enough. I'm not trading Reinhart for a goalie as an asset. The first is fine. I'd rather sign a stop gap and work on integrating UPL into the long term plans. If we trade Reinhart, Eichel and Ristolainen, we're going to be WORSE, not better. Edited June 23, 2021 by TheCerebral1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheCerebral1 said: I don't understand acquiring a mid to late 20's goalie. First, this team is not going to be good enough. I'm not trading Reinhart for a goalie as an asset. The first is fine. I'd rather sign a stop gap and work on integrating UPL into the long term plans. If we trade Reinhart, Eichel and Ristolainen, we're going to be WORSE, not better. I bet we move all 3 and have a better season next year. Not because they suck or anything. And there are zero valid stages of nhl team-building in which a mid to late 20s goalie doesn't make sense. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I bet we move all 3 and have a better season next year. Not because they suck or anything. And there are zero valid stages of nhl team-building in which a mid to late 20s goalie doesn't make sense. This is possible. I suppose. Remove the negative players who are upset at being stuck in a vacuum of losing for too long and allow your team to just move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, TheCerebral1 said: I don't understand acquiring a mid to late 20's goalie. First, this team is not going to be good enough. I'm not trading Reinhart for a goalie as an asset. The first is fine. I'd rather sign a stop gap and work on integrating UPL into the long term plans. If we trade Reinhart, Eichel and Ristolainen, we're going to be WORSE, not better. Basically you want to sign a mediocre goalie over a good goalie. A good 25 year old goalie won't work for you? I don't get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheCerebral1 said: This is possible. I suppose. Remove the negative players who are upset at being stuck in a vacuum of losing for too long and allow your team to just move on. I just think loads of factors that helped drag last season and have nothing to do with 9/23/55 will be gone or improved on too. I definitely don't think they held us back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I just think loads of factors that helped drag last season and have nothing to do with 9/23/55 will be gone or improved on too. I definitely don't think they held us back Krueger, Covid stoppage, longer layoff to start, division.. If we actually have goaltending... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Is anyone else concerned that in the Eichel trade packages, we do not see veteran players in the rumoured wish lists? Or are they presumed to be the "cap dumps" everyone talks about? I personally would like some useful veteran players coming back for our Trade Fodder Trio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Is anyone else concerned that in the Eichel trade packages, we do not see veteran players in the rumoured wish lists? Or are they presumed to be the "cap dumps" everyone talks about? I personally would like some useful veteran players coming back for our Trade Fodder Trio. I would target value over age in those deals. There are a billion solid vet ufas this year it seems like. I definitely want some, but won't be worried unless like 2 pieces of these combined deals are nhl ready 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Is anyone else concerned that in the Eichel trade packages, we do not see veteran players in the rumoured wish lists? Or are they presumed to be the "cap dumps" everyone talks about? I personally would like some useful veteran players coming back for our Trade Fodder Trio. Perhaps the Sabres do not want average vets that need protection in the expansion draft. If you get 3 or4 guys for Jack then the protection list changes a lot. Do you risk losing an average piece just acquired or a potential middle 6 guy like Asplund? If they do multiple deals (Jack, Sam and Risto) they may get 6-9 players back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Randall Flagg said: I bet we move all 3 and have a better season next year. Not because they suck or anything. And there are zero valid stages of nhl team-building in which a mid to late 20s goalie doesn't make sense. Even if you think last season was just anything that can go wrong did I don't understand how anyone could look at next season's roster minus Jack and Sam and not see it has a good shot at being the worst team of post-lockout era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, sabremike said: Even if you think last season was just anything that can go wrong did I don't understand how anyone could look at next season's roster minus Jack and Sam and not see it has a good shot at being the worst team of post-lockout era. It's certainly within the realm of possibility, save the tank years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, sabremike said: Even if you think last season was just anything that can go wrong did I don't understand how anyone could look at next season's roster minus Jack and Sam and not see it has a good shot at being the worst team of post-lockout era. Sure, but there are going to be loads of additions from one avenue or another. We won't know until the offseason is complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Quick question, if we could trade Reinhart for 9OA with Vancouver, I wonder if we could finagle that 9OA to get Cirelli from Tampa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityo'Rasmii Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 I'd love Cirelli on our team but what might that trade look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: I bet we move all 3 and have a better season next year. Not because they suck or anything. And there are zero valid stages of nhl team-building in which a mid to late 20s goalie doesn't make sense. This is a great point. I feel like odds are that the team has a better record next season, just because it’s hard to be so bad twice in a row. That will also give people an easy out to say “Look, Eichel WAS a problem!” Can’t wait for that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, sabremike said: Even if you think last season was just anything that can go wrong did I don't understand how anyone could look at next season's roster minus Jack and Sam and not see it has a good shot at being the worst team of post-lockout era. Can’t say how bad the roster looks until we actually see the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Is anyone else concerned that in the Eichel trade packages, we do not see veteran players in the rumoured wish lists? Or are they presumed to be the "cap dumps" everyone talks about? I personally would like some useful veteran players coming back for our Trade Fodder Trio. Exactly what I don't want. No ROR V2. Fresh and young and let them grow as a group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 48 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Quick question, if we could trade Reinhart for 9OA with Vancouver, I wonder if we could finagle that 9OA to get Cirelli from Tampa. As much as I like Cirelli as a player I'm not sure bringing in a guy sitting on top of the world (likely 2 cup winner) and sending him to the bottom of the league is going to land well on him and motivate him to give his all. Maybe, I suppose it depends on his personality, but I think it's risky. Dealing for young guys from lower teams like LA and Anaheim might be the smarter play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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