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38 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Should we get a points projection thread up, considering there's a reasonable chance we are looking at more or less the final roster? We are sitting in ~ early August right now in a regular season, training camps would be maybe a month away. Or is it still too soon? Too high a likelihood of more changes rendering setting the thread up now meaningless? 

There's still too much a chance that a goalie is brought in & depending on who it is, he could alter the results by 8-12 points (assuming 82 games).  Which takes them from bubble to solid.  

Plus, we aren't certain whether the divisions will be changed, though can't see how they won't, nor whether teams will stay only in their division.  Getting TB (or the Caps) & Bahstan 12x each would be much different than facing a normalish schedule.

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1 hour ago, SHAAAUGHT!!! said:

The bolded phrasing has broken my brain.  I had to re-read this around 6 times before I understood F was forward and I'm still struggling even now lol

Sorry.

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Off-season protected list speculation: 2019 & 2020 draftees exempt.  Un-signed 2018 draftees exempt.  Exemption in general for all players with 2 years or less of NHL experience. ( I thought is was NA pro experience, but the NHL.Com article on Seattle expansion say NHL experience). 

Forwards:

Protected: Eichel, Skinner, Reinhart (RFA), Olofsson, Thompson, Mittelstadt (still un-signed) - One slot open

UFA Forwards: Hall and Staal - Obviously we'd protect Hall if re-signed.

Others under contract or control: Eakin, KO, Girgensons, Lazar, & Asplund

Exempt: Cozens, Pekar, Routsalainen (exempt?)

Defense: 

Protect: Dahlin (RFA), Ristolainen and Jokiharju (RFA)

Under contract or control: Miller, Borgen or Pilut (RFA)

UFA Defense: Montour, McCabe, Irwin, Nelson & Davidson

Exempt: Samuelsson, Johnson, Bryson, & Laaksonen

 

Goaltending:

Protect: ?

Under contract or control: Johansson (RFA), Tokarski

UFA Goalies: Ullmark, Hutton

Exempt: UPL, Portillo

 

I have to say this crisis is kind of helping our expansion list.  No much to choose from.  No goalie worth taking.  Only Miller or Borgen on defense. Asplund or Eakin upfront.  If we don't re-sign Hall, then either Aslund or Eakin could be added to the protected list.  Maybe KA could work a decent deal to get the Krack to take KO.  

If I were Seattle I'd take Miller.  His cap isn't bad and he can run their initial PP.  

 

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On 11/2/2020 at 4:02 PM, Thorny said:

Should we get a points projection thread up, considering there's a reasonable chance we are looking at more or less the final roster? We are sitting in ~ early August right now in a regular season, training camps would be maybe a month away. Or is it still too soon? Too high a likelihood of more changes rendering setting the thread up now meaningless? 

Apart from the divisions not being known as someone else noted, we still don't know how many games will be played.

Though we could obviously do it from an 82 game projection and prorate it from there.

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Teams are still at or over the cap without all their guys signed. There will be another flurry of trades before the season starts and I would bet money that the NHLPA will have to agree to 1 compliance buyout to make this work. Otherwise, guys aren't getting paid. 

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2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Teams are still at or over the cap without all their guys signed. There will be another flurry of trades before the season starts and I would bet money that the NHLPA will have to agree to 1 compliance buyout to make this work. Otherwise, guys aren't getting paid. 

I think the owners would oppose that as it is money out of their pockets immediately.

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On 11/22/2020 at 12:20 PM, Ducky said:

Not sure where to put this so I put it here.

What does the protected list look like for the expansion draft?

There has been a thread for that Q, but no idea where it's at.  (Skimmed the 1st 5 pages & didn't notice it.)

Most likely:

Eichel, Skinner, Reinhart, Olofsson, Thompson, Mittelstadt, & Girgensons.  Staal, [s]Skinner[/s] Hall, & Reider are UFAs & don't have to be protected.  Could see them protecting Asplund or Eakins instead of Z, but my guess is it is either him or somebody else they pick up via trade as the 7th F.  IF Okposo's partial NMC forces him to be protected, then he's the 7th guy.

Dahlin, Jokiharju, & Ristolainen are the most likely 3 on D.  Montour, McCabe, & Irwin are all UFAs so don't need to be protected.  Miller or Pilut is most likely the guy Seattle takes, though they could go off the board & take 1 of the Ra-cha-cha D or a goalie.

Protected goalie probably isn't on the roster yet as Ullmark is a UFA after this season.

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On 11/22/2020 at 2:12 PM, Taro T said:

There has been a thread for that Q, but no idea where it's at.  (Skimmed the 1st 5 pages & didn't notice it.)

Most likely:

Eichel, Skinner, Reinhart, Olofsson, Thompson, Mittelstadt, & Girgensons.  Staal, Skinner, & Reider are UFAs & don't have to be protected.  Could see them protecting Asplund or Eakins instead of Z, but my guess is it is either him or somebody else they pick up via trade as the 7th F.  IF Okposo's partial NMC forces him to be protected, then he's the 7th guy.

Dahlin, Jokiharju, & Ristolainen are the most likely 3 on D.  Montour, McCabe, & Irwin are all UFAs so don't need to be protected.  Miller or Pilut is most likely the guy Seattle takes, though they could go off the board & take 1 of the Ra-cha-cha D or a goalie.

Protected goalie probably isn't on the roster yet as Ullmark is a UFA after this season.

 

Can the team ask him to remove that clause in order to free up that 7th guy protection?

Let's face it Kyle isn't going any where for obvious reasons.

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4 minutes ago, WildCard said:

So are we done with moves? Is this it? Training camp (tentatively) is expected to start in 3 weeks

Maybe. There are a bunch of players not signed and a bunch of possible trades still lingering. I think once teams know when camp will start and when they will need to be cap compliant, we will see some moves. If you mean specifically Buffalo... unsure. 

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4 hours ago, woods-racer said:

 

Can the team ask him to remove that clause in order to free up that 7th guy protection?

Let's face it Kyle isn't going any where for obvious reasons.

IF they'd need him to (not positive that is the case) he would be able to voluntarily release the Sabres from protecting him.

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4 hours ago, WildCard said:

So are we done with moves? Is this it? Training camp (tentatively) is expected to start in 3 weeks

Hard to say.  It's essentially late August & will remain that until start dates for camps & the regular season are announced.

Still expect to see 1-2 NHL moves by Adams & possibly some more moves to help the Amerks IF there is to be an AHL season of some sort.  (If the NHL goes to 4 bubble cities, would expect the AHL to do something likewise.  If the NHL allows fans at the discretion of their municipality like the NFL is doing, expect the AHL would follow suit with MLB type 3-4 game series between particular teams to minimize travel but possibly allowing teams that can't host fans being allowed to play in other cities this season (similar to what the Jays did to avoid crossing the border) or possibly allowing the visiting team to be designated the home team to get some fans in the barns that do allow fans.  If the NHL follows more of a MLB model w/ no fans, no idea whether the AHL would play as their TV packages are nearly non-existant.)

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