Thorny Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Our wingers are atrocious If we don’t acquire more this offseason capable of playing in a top 6 roll, we really should be looking at moving one of ROR or Mittelstadt to LW for the time being. Eichel, Reinhart, O’Reilly, Mittelstadt. All natural centres and our 4 best forwards skill wise. Reinhart already shifted to the wing and has benefited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 If we don’t acquire more this offseason capable of playing in a top 6 roll, we really should be looking at moving one of ROR or Mittelstadt to LW for the time being. Eichel, Reinhart, O’Reilly, Mittelstadt. All natural centres and our 4 best forwards skill wise. Reinhart already shifted to the wing and has benefited. What we need is a pest. This team distinctly lacks one of those guys who is just a huge pain in the ass. Aggressive on the forecheck, can score, maybe a little dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) What we need is a pest. This team distinctly lacks one of those guys who is just a huge pain in the ass. Aggressive on the forecheck, can score, maybe a little dirty. I wonder if we could attract Evander Kane? Wait.... wat? Edited April 29, 2018 by We've Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 I wonder if we could attract Evander Kane? Wait.... wat? Sure. But it won't be him. Because he didn't want to be here and he's a problem off the ice for this squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 So, now that we have some roster flexibility, who can we move to get a playoff ready goaltender? And do we consider that a good option?I'm down for pulling the trigger on an honest hockey trade to bring in a playoff goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 So, now that we have some roster flexibility, who can we move to get a playoff ready goaltender? And do we consider that a good option? I'm down for pulling the trigger on an honest hockey trade to bring in a playoff goalie. I hate not having a quality go to goalie. We never had that this past season. The uncertainty going into games sucks when the tandem isn't sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 So, now that we have some roster flexibility, who can we move to get a playoff ready goaltender? And do we consider that a good option? I'm down for pulling the trigger on an honest hockey trade to bring in a playoff goalie. I don't like trading for goalies. I think you always end up overpaying. Maybe if you can get a deal on a guy that a team has soured on for no good reason? Or a veteran guy on a team that is going to tank? There aren't many goalies out there that I covet. I know some people think Washington is the obvious place to pick someone up from because of Grubauer and Holtby. I would take either guy. I might look to Vegas who seems to have a good goalie prospect pool. Do they move on from Fleury and would you want him? My personal choice is Miller because he'll be cheap and can platoon with Ullmark. But I don't think he fits your "playoff goalie" request. Would you take Lundqvist from NY if they retained salary or took a bad contract off our hands? I might. Saros from Nashville could be a target. Not much else out there that I'm interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 So, now that we have some roster flexibility, who can we move to get a playoff ready goaltender? And do we consider that a good option? I'm down for pulling the trigger on an honest hockey trade to bring in a playoff goalie. I'm taking a break from writing (see: procrastinating), so I perused every roster. The only viable situation I see is Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) I'm taking a break from writing (see: procrastinating), so I perused every roster. The only viable situation I see is Washington. What is a fair value trade for one of Washington's goalies? IMO goalie has just become priority #1. Edited April 30, 2018 by We've Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 What is a fair value trade for one of Washington's goalies? IMO goalie has just become priority #1. Probably picks and prospects. The Caps don't really need much as far as roster players go. They have plenty of cap space to lock down their D free agents which is their only area of need. I could even see them qualifying Grubauer and then trading him during the season if they end up having a need somewhere. But I don't think they have to trade either of their goalies, which makes them a tough trade partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 I'm cool seeing what Linus can do next year. Maybe Murray overpaying for lehner has me gun shy, but I think next year is more of an evaluation year given our cap issues. What is a fair value trade for one of Washington's goalies? IMO goalie has just become priority #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeEich Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) We desperately need players who can put the puck in the net right? I mean regardless of what happens with the defence and goalies, we still have a glaring issue. The team doesn't score goals very much Edited April 30, 2018 by LikeEich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) What is a fair value trade for one of Washington's goalies? IMO goalie has just become priority #1. Probably picks and prospects. The Caps don't really need much as far as roster players go. They have plenty of cap space to lock down their D free agents which is their only area of need. I could even see them qualifying Grubauer and then trading him during the season if they end up having a need somewhere. But I don't think they have to trade either of their goalies, which makes them a tough trade partner. Would you be willing to take on Orpik's salary to get Grubauer? Beaulieu for Hagelin straight up? Edited April 30, 2018 by dewookieen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Would you be willing to take on Orpik's salary to get Grubauer? I don't know if we can afford that. If anything we're a team that needs to find a way to shed some bad contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 The cap will be at 80mil And based off this other team I made earlier we'd still have 10 mil in cap space. Remember we shed Gorges contract and a Bogosian buyout would give us nearly 3.5 mil. Plus I'm ridding us of Beaulieu Orpik's is 5.5mil x 1 year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 What we need is a pest. This team distinctly lacks one of those guys who is just a huge pain in the ass. Aggressive on the forecheck, can score, maybe a little dirty. Asplund? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Here's another idea I tried to find a nice mix of vets and speed, and as for the high cap dumps 2019 Contracts that end of not: Pominville 5.6mil Orpik 5.5mil Moulson 5mil (Granted 1mil was saved during the season) Hagelin 4 mil Vanek 3.25mil Kruger 3.08mil (Granted 1mil was saved during the season) Hendricks 2mil I'm attempting to maximize our cap space while we have the opportunity to use it to gain further assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marions Piazza Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 I have seen a lot of talk about moving on from RoR (which I support) and Risto (which I do not support, unless some GM is stupid and we get back a Taylor Hall) now that we are going to draft Dahlin. What would a reasonable trade involving RoR actaully be? You have to think he carries a lot of weight around the league, defensively responsible, one of the top faceoff guys, sure he had those year end comments, but, I would think most GMs could understand all the losing he has been through. This morning he was named Alt Capt of Team Canada. Assuming we draft Dahlin and do not trade Risto, Scandella, Guhle coming up and McCabe healing from a nagging year long injury, are we set at D or do we try to trade RoR for another 2/3 D-man? I honeslty have no idea where to begin with a RoR trade, his value, and what we can get in return. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 If ROR gets traded, my aim would not be a player to replace his exact role. It would be a winger I could see playing with Jack plus a nice defenseman. Or straight up for a very, very good defenseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 What about ROR, rights to Lehner, Bogo and 4th rd pick to Islanders for Kiefer Bellows, #12 pick and Brock Nelson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 LOL Poor Lou. He keeps chucking 'em and ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 No one covets Robin Lehner and no one is taking Robin Lehner in a trade because no one will qualify him at over $4mil/yr. He's going to free agency where he will be had for a cheaper price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) What about ROR, rights to Lehner, Bogo and 4th rd pick to Islanders for Kiefer Bellows, #12 pick and Brock Nelson. If you take out Lehner (irrelevant piece) and Bogosian (negative value addition), we might be able to trade ROR for Nelson, and one of the two other pieces. Nelson is a left shot who could play on Jack’s wing (and has) who is a perennial 20 goal scorer who’s still only 26. Kiefer is an A prospect and so will be the 12th pick. As of typing this out I find myself struggling to believe we could fetch Nelson and Bellows for ROR. I would probably make that trade, so it’s probably short on value from our end. Maybe add a 2nd. Edited April 30, 2018 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 I truly think this is a watershed moment and I hope they don't blow it. If they just tinker now and stand pat on things it'll be a huge mistake. I think what you have to do is take this as the reset moment (the one we all hoped we had after the tank but didn't get). You take this as the dawn of a new day and build the entire team around Eichel, Dahlin and youth. Some of it won't work right away, but you have to begin the process and the uphill climb. so: 1. draft Dahlin. 2. ditch/trade/buy out whatever it takes as many albatross contracts as possible. Marginalize the role of whatever you're stuck with. 3. trade or ditch ANYONE and EVERYONE who they have (presumably) identified as lacking a work ethic or has a so so attitude, quits, etc. No more country club. 4. do not bring in a bunch of money hungry, lazy or has been veterans to fill the gaps, use the kids instead. 5. change the assistant coaches or add more to make sure we have good teachers on staff 6. build a new young line up with fast kids and younger talent. Sure, they'll make mistakes and they'll need to grow, but hopefully then they do it as a GROUP and they do it by playing the system and with desire and we start to move up in the standings and in a few years are a force to be reckoned with. If we just swap a few bodies, it'll be same old same old, I'm old enough to have seen it all before. Come on Sabres, it's time for a NEW ERA to begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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