PASabreFan Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Three years on from a fateful day in Sabres history, and I don't feel like anyone has been held responsible. What they had over there, of course, was a flat management structure and plausible deniability. Was it all Terry? I mean, he played no meaningful role in hiring Murray, according to him. Are his hands clean on The Tank too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Odd that you would forget this all started under Darcy and his infamous "suffering" statement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 There is no debate. Whether it was Terry pushing Darcy or Darcy pushing Terry, it was clearly Terry’s decision and Terry is accountable. Why are we even talking about it anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 For everybody complaining about the tank.... you should thank your lucky stars BUF didn't beat ARI in OT on that fateful day 3 years ago. If they did, BUF ends up with Strome and ARI gets Eichel. Tank on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 For everybody complaining about the tank.... you should thank your lucky stars BUF didn't beat ARI in OT on that fateful day 3 years ago. If they did, BUF ends up with Strome and ARI gets Eichel. Tank on. So what? There is no debate. Whether it was Terry pushing Darcy or Darcy pushing Terry, it was clearly Terry’s decision and Terry is accountable. Why are we even talking about it anymore? Because we're not talking about it. I'd like to know the last time Terry uttered the word "Sabres" in public. He's gone like the wind. Odd that you would forget this all started under Darcy and his infamous "suffering" statement... I didn't forget. That doesn't answer the questions. If it was Darcy's idea, why did he get fired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 The level of meddling with the Pegulas is an unknowable factor. What I'd like to know is who is giving them advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Lets start another freaking thread about this, oh off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 The level of meddling with the Pegulas is an unknowable factor. What I'd like to know is who is giving them advice? It would seem to be down to Russ Brandon. When the tank was being hatched, you have a whole panoply of candidates: Cliff Benson, Ken Sawyer and Ted Black chiefly among them. They, and Terry, would have seen the result of the Pens bottoming out circa 2002-2004. Terry being a Pens fan, of course, who didn't even know his beloved Sabres were for sale after the Rigas debacle. I'd love to invoke Battista, but he didn't come around until late 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Lets start another freaking thread about this, oh ###### off /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 /thread Yeah, right. I'm just getting warmed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Yeah, right. I'm just getting warmed up. Out of curiosity, how many miles of yarn are tacked to the walls in your house, all terminating at an 8" x 10" photo of Batista? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Out of curiosity, how many miles of yarn are tacked to the walls in your house, all terminating at an 8" x 10" photo of Batista? That's oddly specific. And wrong. Definitely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 That's oddly specific. And wrong. Definitely wrong. I kid because I love... Brandon? Black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Who cares whose idea it was? From what I've been told, IT WAS THE ONLY WAY OUT OF YET ANOTHER HEROIC RUN TO NINTH PLACE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Who cares whose idea it was? From what I've been told, IT WAS THE ONLY WAY OUT OF YET ANOTHER HEROIC RUN TO NINTH PLACE!! Not for nothing, but how much fun would a heroic run to ninth place be about now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacque Richard Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Run out and get your seasons for next year folks. Should be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Not for nothing, but how much fun would a heroic run to ninth place be about now? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Who cares whose idea it was? From what I've been told, IT WAS THE ONLY WAY OUT OF YET ANOTHER HEROIC RUN TO NINTH PLACE!! If the measure of the tank is whether it broke the cycle of endless run to 9th, it's the single most successful thing a Buffalo sports team has ever done :nana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 We really gotta stop talking about the tank already. It's over with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 We really gotta stop talking about the tank already. It's over with The tank. Black Sunday. The Watkins trade. Drafting TJ Graham. Whatever it is, if it doesn't work out, count on fans to be unable to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 We really gotta stop talking about the tank already. It's over with Is it? Or are they tanking right now and just being smarter and less obvious about it? I kind of hope that's the case, cause if they're not tanking and still ending up last.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Three years on from a fateful day in Sabres history, and I don't feel like anyone has been held responsible. What they had over there, of course, was a flat management structure and plausible deniability. Was it all Terry? I mean, he played no meaningful role in hiring Murray, according to him. Are his hands clean on The Tank too? It was the right thing to do then and I still support it, unfortunately our ex GM's vision didn't pan out but with the right moves Botteril can right a sinking ship, getting either Svechnikov or Dahlin will be a great start and we'll be faster soon, with Nylander/Middlestadt, team speed is needed desperately. The good thing out of all this bad is that Reinhart is finally looking decent again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 It was the right thing to do then and I still support it, unfortunately our ex GM's vision didn't pan out but with the right moves Botteril can right a sinking ship, getting either Svechnikov or Dahlin will be a great start and we'll be faster soon, with Nylander/Middlestadt, team speed is needed desperately. The good thing out of all this bad is that Reinhart is finally looking decent again. What if Reinhart doesn't want to resign here over the summer? Buffalo is never featured on goals of the week or goals of the month. There's a reason: no talent. And the leadership has failed over many years now with very little signs of a pulse. Don't take it for granted that Reinhart's going to be here next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Harrington and Hammy combining their wondertwin powers of absolute awful last night to argue that it is, in fact, the fans who need to be held responsible for all of this is pretty much the hardest I've ever seen two people navel-gaze. Burning holes-level staring... I can't anymore. Just make the team better, those responsible for doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacque Richard Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Pegula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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