inkman Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Wahlstrom is noted for his puck pursuit. I'm not worried about him being soft. Tkachuk is still higher on my list but there isn't a big gap. I just hope whomever them draft gets the liger stamp of approval so we don't need to read about how JBotts got it all wrong and liger told us so for 5 years running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) I just hope whomever them draft gets the liger stamp of approval so we don't need to read about how JBotts got it all wrong and liger told us so for 5 years running.Me too. Looking back at 2015, me too. Edited January 30, 2018 by SkuggaLiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 GA had a name on his list that I first heard about this past weekend listening to a draft podcast. Jonny Tychonick 5'11 LHD from the BCHL (same league as Makar). He is committed to UND. He was viewed as easily the best player at the CJHL Prospect game last week. could go early 2nd round - though I read somewhere that some scouts think there is a possibility that he skyrockets, like Makar, and ends up a lottery pick. https://twitter.com/draftbuzzhockey/status/940350670657478657 Edit. Makar played in the AJHL not the BCHL. Should have said same level of hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Tkachuk doesn’t seem to have trouble scoring goals. He also can score them from areas no one but Reinhart seems to be able to score them from on our current team. I feel about this draft like I did about the previous two: we’ll be picking in the top ten; we should get a good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Tkachuk doesn’t seem to have trouble scoring goals. He also can score them from areas no one but Reinhart seems to be able to score them from on our current team. I feel about this draft like I did about the previous two: we’ll be picking in the top ten; we should get a good player. Very good point. Tkachuk is agile and he works great along the wall and down low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Wrong!! Ehlers, yes. FUCALE!! I wanted that D.R. weasel to trade up to get him. For a brief moment I thought he did, but then he took some other clown and the Habs grabbed him wit the next pick, I think. This is correct. You have a good memory. ZADINA!! I'm with you, man. I draft Zadina over everyone in this draft except for Dahlin. I just hope we get a chance to draft him. Outside of winning one of the 3 lottery spots or finishing dead last and him falling to us at #4 I don't think he'll be available though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Draft odds if the draft happened right now. http://www.tankathon.com/nhl/pick_odds Buffalo has a 36.2% chance of picking in the top 3. 33.7% chance of 4th and a 30.1% chance of 5th. Edited January 30, 2018 by SkuggaLiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 link didn't work... http://www.tankathon.com/nhl/pick_odds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I fixed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Tkachuk, #7 (At the 1:05 mark you can Tkachuk on a 2 on 1, his skating looks good) Zadina, #11 or #19 depending Boqivst, #3 Edited January 30, 2018 by SkuggaLiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I fixed it Even if the Sabres pass Ottawa, they are still 83% drafting top 5. Here is the expected Line-up for Sweden at the upcoming 5 nation tourney: Feb Adam Boqvist will be the one to keep an eye on. If he can dominate against his peers, like he did at the Hlinka last August, he can almost guarantee himself a top 5 draft slot. Others on Sweden who could be 1st rounders - Filip Hallander andJacob Olofsson, : https://twitter.com/hockeymag/status/958287266899689472 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Wish Lundestrom was on the team. There are some good players to watch there. Adam Ginning is a potential 3rd round guy to keep an eye on. LHD, 6'3" just learning the SHL game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 https://twitter.com/hockeymag/status/958287266899689472 Each of those guys looks like an extra in that Aha! video (Take On Me) who put on a Swedish national jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Wish Lundestrom was on the team. There are some good players to watch there. Adam Ginning is a potential 3rd round guy to keep an eye on. LHD, 6'3" just learning the SHL game. TY leger. i think we all have a sense of the talent at or near the top of the 1st.... More interested in late 1st if Kane is traded and later rounds. PS the more I watch Walstrom the more I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Each of those guys looks like an extra in that Aha! video (Take On Me) who put on a Swedish national jersey. A-ha are from Norway. Other than that, I am with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) TY leger. i think we all have a sense of the talent at or near the top of the 1st.... More interested in late 1st if Kane is traded and later rounds. PS the more I watch Walstrom the more I like. I'll look at more at the back of round 1 if we get a pick there. Edited January 30, 2018 by SkuggaLiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Corey Pronman released his Mid Season Rankings at The Athletic. Calls the class below average overall, but is impressed with the D Men. Biggest surprise Ryan Merkley at 6. Brady Tkatchuk at 15. Hughes at 3, Boqvist at 5 Dobson 24, Bouchard at 26. Edit Wahlstrom at 7. And Liger has convinced me on him This is interesting, I’ve heard a lot about how this draft looks like a deep one, nothing about it being below average until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 This is interesting, I’ve heard a lot about how this draft looks like a deep one, nothing about it being below average until now.It's because of the depth at the top of 2017. This draft has less of that high end offensive talent but has loads of defensive depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 It's because of the depth at the top of 2017. This draft has less of that high end offensive talent but has loads of defensive depth. Absolutely right, plus the centre position is rather weak. May not even see a centre taken in top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Absolutely right, plus the centre position is rather weak. May not even see a centre taken in top 10.Center do seem weak but decent wings and D are plentiful and Sabres need both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Center do seem weak but decent wings and D are plentiful and Sabres need both. Exactly. The other issue that draft people have is this draft isn't 2015. McDavid, Eichel, Marner, Provorov, Hanifin, Werenski, Meier, Ratanen, Barzal, Connor, White, Boeser, Konencny. Those are all either in the NHL and doing well or on the cusp and that is just round 1. 2015 was a crazy talented draft. It is however an outlier. Most drafts look like 2016, 2017, and 2018. A lot of analyst seem to think every draft should look like 2015 and if it doesn't it is "below average" or a "weak draft class". 2nd round or later guys to consider. Preliminary thoughts. K'Andre Miller, big physical defender. Skating agility is a ? Ryan O'Reilly, RW scorer... no, not the ROR but he has quite a few goals in the USHL Adam Ginning, defender playing in Sweden. I always like Swedish defenders for some reason. Maybe because of their polished 2-way games Filip Hallander, C/LW out of Sweden. I don't know a ton about him. He is putting up points in the Allsvenskan at 17 so that is intriguing to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Each year for the last 6 or so years, I’ve made a spreadsheet to review and compile the various prospect ratings from reliable sources sich as TSN, McKeens, ISS etc.. I’ve compiled 8 sources so far with recent ratings and some patterns are emerging. Looking at the entire board so far, it looks like there are 24 prospects most analysts think are going in the 1st rd. Plus another 2 groups of 9 who could sneak into the 1st rd. None of this means that guys can’t slip or by taken way before expected, but the list has proven pretty accurate over the years. One note, I looked back at my list from 2014. Sam, Leon and Bennett were pretty much tied for 2nd. One interesting note, All-star Point was 39th on my list. He fell to Tampa at 79. Instead we drafted Cornel at 44, Karabacek at 49 and Martin at 72. Thanks TM. I’ve placed them in 6 tiers with the top tier having 3 sub-tiers. Top 24 Tier 1A- Dahlin, Svechnikov, and Zadina Tier 1B - Tkachuk and Boqvist Tier 1C- Hughes and Wahlstrom Tier 2 - Kupari, Ty Smith, Farabee, Dobson, Wilde, and Bouchard Tier 3 - Lundestrom, Velano, Hayton, McIssac, Kotkaniemi, and McLeod Tier 4- Merkley, Denisenko, Thomas, Woo and Groulx Next 9 Tier 5 - McBain, Olofsson, Addison, Noel, and Alexeyev Tier 6 - Miller, Bokk, Samuelsson, and Tychonick Update. Pronman, THN and Future Considerations updated their lists, so I now have 11 sources. Not too many changes to the above list except as follows 1) the top 7 have firmed up and the gap between Wahlstrom at 7 (average slot 7.82) and Ty Smith at 8 (average slot 11.45) is the biggest gap between two players on the board. 2) There are now 26 players with consistent 1st rd grades (appeared on at least 9 of the 11 lists). Olofsson and Noel have jumped from tier 5 to tier 4. 3) Miller and Bokk jumped to tier 5, while Alexeyev fell to tier 6. 4) Two players picking up some steam are Jonny Tychonick and Alex Khovanov. They have appeared on 3 of 5 ballots since Jan 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 A-ha are from Norway. Other than that, I am with you. Meh. No difference. Yes, I know there's a huge difference; my fraternity little brother was from Norway. ;) I always like Swedish defenders for some reason. Maybe because of their polished 2-way games Because Lidstrom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Update. Pronman, THN and Future Considerations updated their lists, so I now have 11 sources. Not too many changes to the above list except as follows 1) the top 7 have firmed up and the gap between Wahlstrom at 7 (average slot 7.82) and Ty Smith at 8 (average slot 11.45) is the biggest gap between two players on the board. 2) There are now 26 players with consistent 1st rd grades (appeared on at least 9 of the 11 lists). Olofsson and Noel have jumped from tier 5 to tier 4. 3) Miller and Bokk jumped to tier 5, while Alexeyev fell to tier 6. 4) Two players picking up some steam are Jonny Tychonick and Alex Khovanov. They have appeared on 3 of 5 ballots since Jan 10. Oh I like this compilationThe gap after 7 makes a lot of sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Update. Pronman, THN and Future Considerations updated their lists, so I now have 11 sources. Not too many changes to the above list except as follows 1) the top 7 have firmed up and the gap between Wahlstrom at 7 (average slot 7.82) and Ty Smith at 8 (average slot 11.45) is the biggest gap between two players on the board. 2) There are now 26 players with consistent 1st rd grades (appeared on at least 9 of the 11 lists). Olofsson and Noel have jumped from tier 5 to tier 4. 3) Miller and Bokk jumped to tier 5, while Alexeyev fell to tier 6. 4) Two players picking up some steam are Jonny Tychonick and Alex Khovanov. They have appeared on 3 of 5 ballots since Jan 10. If the Sabres land one of the Forwards with their first pick - Tychonick or Jet Woo would be a great early 2nd rounder (if Available). To be honest, I only first heard of Tychonick this past weekend but he sounds like a prospect we need to get to know. From the Draft Analyst ; "Easily the most noticeable player on the ice with or without the puck. Tychonick’s skating is at the forefront of his overall game — everything he does with the puck is a consequence of it. Whether it’s skating through open ice or weaving around traffic, the North Dakota commit commands a lot of respect on the ice, and you can tell he keeps opponents honest. Give him space, and he’ll exploit it. Tighten up on him? Forget it — he’s gone" here is an isolation video of Jonny http://sportsandmoore.com/jonny-tychonick-2018-nhl-draft-eligible/ Edited January 31, 2018 by Crusader1969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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