LGR4GM Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) It needs to be stated. The only acceptable outcome the playoffs. No excuses. Injuries. New coach. New system. New teammates. These are excuses and aren't acceptable for this team. Edited July 6, 2017 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) It needs to be stated. The only acceptable outcome the playoffs. No excuses. So, what happens if they don't make it? Fire the first time head coach and first time GM after only one year? Tank again? Edited July 6, 2017 by SwampD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Hire belichek and learn how to cheat well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 So, what happens if they don't make it? Fire the first time head coach and first time GM after only one year? Tank again?You misunderstand. This scenario doesn't exist. Playoffs, that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 You misunderstand. This scenario doesn't exist. Playoffs, that's it. I'm with you. And may the Pominville be with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 It most certainly does. Why are you so adamant that we improved to the point of playoff qualifier? Where are the adds? Baloo? Antipin? Pouliiot? Keeping the young guns in Rochester? Sounds more like a veiled effort to have a shot at Dahlin without being obvious about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 The assembled pieces were much better than their system last year. They are better this year than last, and will play a better system. Yes. Playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 The assembled pieces were much better than their system last year. They are better this year than last, and will play a better system. Yes. Playoffs. Yeah there is no doubt this team underperformed quite a bit last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 So, what happens if they don't make it? Fire the first time head coach and first time GM after only one year? Tank again? No, but the Pegula's do seem to fire people often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) I expected playoffs last year, and I expect them this year to. If we fail then I'm tossing Pegula under a bus.. He's the one that has been making these management decisions on both the Sabres and the bills and not a single one has panned out... (YET!).... The guy is batting 0.000. I have hope but very little patience after years upon years of Buffalo sports debacles Edited July 6, 2017 by ddaryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 It most certainly does. Why are you so adamant that we improved to the point of playoff qualifier? Where are the adds? Baloo? Antipin? Pouliiot? Keeping the young guns in Rochester? Sounds more like a veiled effort to have a shot at Dahlin without being obvious about it. Don't forget Scandella. No way this team is setting their sights on Dahlin. --- On another note, Jim Hughson was on Sportsnet radio talking about how the Oilers are attempting the Pittsburgh model, and that league wide the movement as a whole is headed in that direction: Attempt at a 1/2 centre punch locked up for big $ ala Sid/Geno. Speed. College draftees, who are able to step in on cheap deals, but also ready to contribute upon league entrance (Guentzel, etc) as they are in their early 20s and not teenagers. Specifically mentioned that Buffalo brought over "Pittsburgh guys" to do this. So the league is trending in this direction, but only one team, the Sabres, has the Architect. Things may not work out for the Sabres, but if they do, I think we'll be the class of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 The Penguins were an accident (provided you don't believe in conspiracy theories). The Oilers fell ass backwards into McDavid. Their GM is an idiot. Should be fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Don't forget Scandella. No way this team is setting their sights on Dahlin. --- On another note, Jim Hughson was on Sportsnet radio talking about how the Oilers are attempting the Pittsburgh model, and that league wide the movement as a whole is headed in that direction: Attempt at a 1/2 centre punch locked up for big $ ala Sid/Geno. Speed. College draftees, who are able to step in on cheap deals, but also ready to contribute upon league entrance (Guentzel, etc) as they are in their early 20s and not teenagers. Specifically mentioned that Buffalo brought over "Pittsburgh guys" to do this. So the league is trending in this direction, but only one team, the Sabres, has the Architect. Things may not work out for the Sabres, but if they do, I think we'll be the class of the league. I'm not entirely onboard with this. Sure, it's a copycat league and right now the PIT model is the hot trend. But it was just a few short years ago that the LAK model was the way everybody wanted to go.... big forwards playing a heavy game, wear down teams physically, etc.. The league evolves so fast that copying another franchise and hoping for the same success rarely works out. BUF is copying PIT, but the majority of teams will put resources into designing systems to counter the PIT model.... what exactly that is... who knows. But I'd put money on the idea that whoever figures out how to counter PITs speed game will be the next multiple Cup winner. I'm afraid BUF will just be caught in the tide at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 The Penguins were an accident (provided you don't believe in conspiracy theories). The Oilers fell ass backwards into McDavid. Their GM is an idiot. Should be fun to watch. Provided you don't believe in conspiracy theories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Sure, why not. I'd like to watch ROR and Eichel in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 I'm not entirely onboard with this. Sure, it's a copycat league and right now the PIT model is the hot trend. But it was just a few short years ago that the LAK model was the way everybody wanted to go.... big forwards playing a heavy game, wear down teams physically, etc.. The league evolves so fast that copying another franchise and hoping for the same success rarely works out. BUF is copying PIT, but the majority of teams will put resources into designing systems to counter the PIT model.... what exactly that is... who knows. But I'd put money on the idea that whoever figures out how to counter PITs speed game will be the next multiple Cup winner. I'm afraid BUF will just be caught in the tide at that point. It depends how long the Pittsburgh trend lasts. It could be years. The Kings model was short lived. The Penguins have had sustained success for a decade. Also, if the league ever actually cleans up it's act and moves away from all the slashing and obstruction and actually calls penalties, we'd be in an even better position. I'm happy that we have the guy who gets a lot of the credit on the management side for the Pens continued success, it puts us in perhaps a uniquely viable position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 It should always be the only acceptable outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 It should always be the only acceptable outcome. Strategies are a means to an end. Therefore, this is not always true. See: The Tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Strategies are a means to an end. Therefore, this is not always true. See: The Tank Funny. I saw the tank as supporting my point too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Funny. I saw the tank as supporting my point too. I would offer LVGK. Using their opportunity to ice a playoff team would have been negligent. Nice sounds byte but not practical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Provided you don't believe in conspiracy theories. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 I would offer LVGK. Using their opportunity to ice a playoff team would have been negligent. Nice sounds byte but not practical. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Why? Florida Panthers expansion being the one that sticks out to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Why? Because they acquired enough assets through deals to accumulate a wealth of talent that will serve them for years to come. They will be the next Islanders winning championships not just making the making the playoffs. Foregoing the opportunity to put together a team designed for short term gain versus long term sustainability was the right move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 I'm talking a frame of mind. This "well everything has to go right" attitude is crap. Either the only acceptable thing is the playoffs or you're playing with a defeatist attitude. Put up. Not put up or shut up. Just put up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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