Huckleberry Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I have a strange feeling we might loose Samson today :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Summary when possible? ummm there's a lot being discussed. So far they haven't really gotten to the draft part of it. Spent time talking Kane trade or Lehner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 ...I'm kinda rooting for Tippett now :nana: Of the players you listed, I'd be really surprised if Glass or Mittelstadt is actually there. Shocked in the case of Glass, really. Choice will probably be Liljegren, Tippett, or Valimaki. I think I take them in that order. Not saying I'd take him at 8, but what do you think about Suzuki? I'm increasingly intrigued. Suzuki seems like a level headed Josh Ho-Sang. Eh. I'd take Pettersson or Andersson over him. I'd take him if we decided to move down into the teens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I have a strange feeling we might loose Samson today :( I'd lose all respect for Botts if he trades Reinhart and keeps Kane. Kane is a cancer that needs to be cut out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I like Suzuki, I would take Suzuki over Tippett. There I said it. https://canucksarmy.com/2017/06/14/nation-network-prospect-profiles-8-nick-suzuki/ This makes sense, but in that case I'd take Pecas, Andersson, Tolvanen, Pettersson, Suzuki, over Tippett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 ummm there's a lot being discussed. So far they haven't really gotten to the draft part of it. Spent time talking Kane trade or Lehner. Well then you'd better get typing :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Baker: Tippet, Liljegren, Necas are three names you can safely consider to be available at #8. He likes all 3 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Liljegren seems to be the name I keep seeing out of the top 3 D that may be available at 8. Anyone have a strong opinion either way? How close is he to NHL ready? Are we seeing him (realistically) max out as a top 2 guy? Top 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) Liljegren seems to be the name I keep seeing out of the top 3 D that may be available at 8. Anyone have a strong opinion either way? How close is he to NHL ready? Are we seeing him (realistically) max out as a top 2 guy? Top 4? Personally I like him more than Makar. I feel that the questions about his hockey sense are overstated. He has an NHL body, shot, and can run the PP. He has as much upside as any of the defensemen. Heiskanen is more ready "NOW" and is a safer two way player. He could play day one. Valimaki has the same style as Heiskanen but may be a step lower. I order them: Heiskanen, Liljegren, Makar, Valimaki. He missed half the season with mono and looked out of shape when he got back. Think Chychrun slipping last season, but he looked fine all season as a rookie. Edited June 23, 2017 by TheCerebral1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Liljegren seems to be the name I keep seeing out of the top 3 D that may be available at 8. Anyone have a strong opinion either way? How close is he to NHL ready? Are we seeing him (realistically) max out as a top 2 guy? Top 4? He's a top 2 or potentially a top 1 at max. He has another year in the SHL. I like him a lot. Could be in the NHL next year. Liljegren's problem is he got Mono and that screwed his season. https://canucksarmy.com/2017/06/14/nation-network-2017-prospect-profile-6-timothy-liljegren/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Personally I like him more than Makar. I feel that the questions about his hockey sense are overstated. He has an NHL body, shot, and can run the PP. He has as much upside as any of the defensemen. Heiskanen is more ready "NOW" and is a safer two way player. He could play day one. Valimaki has the same style as Heiskanen but may be a step lower. I order them: Heiskanen, Liljegren, Makar, Valimaki. He missed half the season with mono and looked out of shape when he got back. Think Chychrun slipping last season, but he looked fine all season as a rookie. To be fair, it was pretty easy to look good on that Arizona team :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Jason Botterill media scrum on WGR 550 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Wow, McKenzie's final rankings has Liljegren ranked 16h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Wow, McKenzie's final rankings has Liljegren ranked 16h. Recency bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) Jason Botterill media scrum on WGR 550 right now. Botts just more or less confirmed that Peterson is not signing here once he hits FA. edit: he just confirmed it. Edited June 23, 2017 by mustacheofgod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Botts just more or less confirmed that Peterson is not signing here once he hits FA. edit: he just confirmed it. Wonder what went wrong? Does he just feel it's a more difficult path with Lehner/Ullmark here? Organization do something to piss him off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I have a strange feeling we might loose Samson today :( The return better be really good and cost controlled if we are trading Samson. We never put him in his natural position his entire tenure as a Sabre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I have a strange feeling we might loose Samson today :( My goodness hush. Stop that no we wont! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Wonder what went wrong? Does he just feel it's a more difficult path with Lehner/Ullmark here? Organization do something to piss him off? I think if a player has a choice to look around as a UFA you've gotta take it. To be in control of where you get to play? I really can't blame him for exercising his options and think this loophole needs to be updated to somehow avoid this happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) They should say that if a college player becomes a UFA (so doesn't sign with his draft team) he has to play his first pro year in the AHL. That would change some thinking. Edited June 23, 2017 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I have a strange feeling we might loose Samson today :( I lose my #$## and eat a sandwich if Sam gets traded. I can't imagine any realistic return for him where I'd be okay with losing him. They should say that if a college player becomes a UFA he has to play his first pro year in the AHL. That would change some thinking. That's what I was thinking. Nothing to handcuff a player to the team long-term but they should be required to be a part of the organization for at least a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I lose my #$## and eat a sandwich if Sam gets traded. I can't imagine any realistic return for him where I'd be okay with losing him. Ok I've never heard that expression before :w00t: Lose your sure. But eat a sandwich?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 They should say that if a college player becomes a UFA (so doesn't sign with his draft team) he has to play his first pro year in the AHL. That would change some thinking. Actually think that might work. hmmm like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 It is basically playing by NCAA rules. You transfer, you sit a year. That is a little harsh so instead you transfer you have to play in the AHL for the year, no call ups or NHL playoffs for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Ok I've never heard that expression before :w00t: Lose your ###### sure. But eat a sandwich?? I mean...I imagine I'll be hungry and I like sandwiches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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