PASabreFan Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) This is a takeoff on the more conservative, "tweak" approach dudacek seems to propose in his "What's our best move?" poll. Add a defenseman, drop a disappointing coach. I'd like to think bigger, bolder, brasher. This franchise needs a jolt, a shock, an ice-bucket challenge. But what? I'd make a poll, but I don't think I have that many ideas. A hockey czar would be one approach. Almost by definition, that would entail cleaning front-office house and shaking up the roster and maybe taking a step back, if that's even possible. Trading an untradeable would be another. The return on an Eichel would have to be real and spectacular. Finally, there's an approach that would seem to fly in the face of my anti-meddling philosophy: if Pegulas are gonna Pegul, then change up the Pegulas. If Kim and Terry want to focus like a laser beam on the Bills, they should give Terry's oldest children operational control of the Sabres. Like that infamous orangutan said, "What the hell do you have to lose?!" Snark is invited, but I'm really interested in outside the box ideas that could radically change the path we're on, which appears to be a path toward a first-round exit in 2019 (followed by a parade, of course). Edited March 20, 2017 by PASabreFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 This is a takeoff on the more conservative, "tweak" approach dudacek seems to propose in his "What's our best move?" poll. Add a defenseman, drop a disappointing coach. I'd like to think bigger, bolder, brasher. This franchise needs a jolt, a shock, an ice-bucket challenge. But what? I'd make a poll, but I don't think I have that many ideas. A hockey czar would be one approach. Almost by definition, that would entail cleaning front-office house and shaking up the roster and maybe taking a step back, if that's even possible. Trading an untradeable would be another. The return on an Eichel would have to be real and spectacular. Finally, there's an approach that would seem to fly in the face of my anti-meddling philosophy: if Pegulas are gonna Pegul, then change up the Pegulas. If Kim and Terry want to focus like a laser beam on the Bills, they should give Terry's oldest children operational control of the Sabres. Like that infamous orangutan said, "What the hell do you have to lose?!" Snark is invited, but I'm really interested in outside the box ideas that could radically change the path we're on, which appears to be a path toward a first-round exit in 2019 (followed by a parade, of course). Eichel for Nolan Patrick, a #1 D and next years first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 remain patient. this team is closer than we think. replace a few aging vets with bad contracts, add a few pieces on D, and it likely results in a playoff birth. the wrong thing to do at this point would be a major overhaul... you don't do that mid-rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 This Church of Moulson kool aid drinker has the right idea. I agree that we are closer than some may think. The difference between stinky and very good in the NHL is not great. If Murray addresses the weakness in the D in the off-season I think we have a reasonable good chance to be a playoff cusp (hi PA) team next season. A major move would be counter productive at this point, IMHO. Sorry, PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Keeping Bylsma as a head coach. It's suicidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Heard an announcer the other day in game between chi and leaves that the hawks didnt start winning till they learned how to play D. The hawks right now have some puck moving D and Panarin is thereal deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonHextallsShoulderPads Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 take your money from extra cap space, and hire lobbyists to push to reinstate two-line pass infractions. that's the only way to neuter DD's system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 There are a million ill-advised panic moves they could make. The prudent thing for TP/KP to do is to understand that they hired someone to do a total rebuild, that a total rebuild takes time, and that there are going to be a few hiccups along the way. They need to let GMTM build it his way and to hold him accountable for the results -- but not until enough time has passed. Two NHL seasons following the intentional icing of one of the worst teams in NHL history for a 2-year period is not remotely close enough to being enough time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 A thing we could realistically do that would be bold, besides fire Dan? Trade Kane for a d-man Go and trade for RNH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Balls Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Trade half the team for Brent Burns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Move the team to another city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Move the team to another city. Cleveland it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Take out Laine, McDavid and Matthews for Jack? Make Babcock disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Heard an announcer the other day in game between chi and leaves that the hawks didnt start winning till they learned how to play D. The hawks right now have some puck moving D and Panarin is thereal deal. Yep. IMO, the defensive lapses are due mostly to the forwards not executing their defensive responsibilities. The lack of resistance through the neutral zone often leaves our defensemen defending odd man situations deep in our zone... which can make any NHL caliber defenseman look foolish at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintwestwood Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 This is a takeoff on the more conservative, "tweak" approach dudacek seems to propose in his "What's our best move?" poll. Add a defenseman, drop a disappointing coach. I'd like to think bigger, bolder, brasher. This franchise needs a jolt, a shock, an ice-bucket challenge. But what? I'd make a poll, but I don't think I have that many ideas. A hockey czar would be one approach. Almost by definition, that would entail cleaning front-office house and shaking up the roster and maybe taking a step back, if that's even possible. Trading an untradeable would be another. The return on an Eichel would have to be real and spectacular. Finally, there's an approach that would seem to fly in the face of my anti-meddling philosophy: if Pegulas are gonna Pegul, then change up the Pegulas. If Kim and Terry want to focus like a laser beam on the Bills, they should give Terry's oldest children operational control of the Sabres. Like that infamous orangutan said, "What the hell do you have to lose?!" Snark is invited, but I'm really interested in outside the box ideas that could radically change the path we're on, which appears to be a path toward a first-round exit in 2019 (followed by a parade, of course). :doh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) There are a million ill-advised panic moves they could make. The prudent thing for TP/KP to do is to understand that they hired someone to do a total rebuild, that a total rebuild takes time, and that there are going to be a few hiccups along the way. They need to let GMTM build it his way and to hold him accountable for the results -- but not until enough time has passed. Two NHL seasons following the intentional icing of one of the worst teams in NHL history for a 2-year period is not remotely close enough to being enough time. This is what I think too. But in the spirit of original post: Move Jack to D. It would use our biggest strength to address our biggest weakness. Sure he might struggle initially with the defensive coverage, but you know he'd be Bobby Orr back there offensively pretty much immediately. He's strong on the boards and would be even better than Risto at skating or passing the puck out of the zone. Who would be a better puck-moving defenceman? Karlsson maybe? Who has a bettter cannon from the point? Can he really be worse than Bogosian at defending? Sam can develop into a Bergeron/Toews level first line centre as he gets to shine in his rightful position feeding Kane. And everybody knows it is far easier to acquire a winger to do what Sam does now than it is to get a defenceman to do what we'd be asking Jack to do. We've been playing Sam out of position pretty much all year. Why not give it a try with Jack? Edited March 20, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 This is what I think too. But in the spirit of original post: Move Jack to D. It would use our biggest strength to address our biggest weakness. Sure he might struggle initially with the defensive coverage, but you know he'd be Bobby Orr back there offensively pretty much immediately. He's strong on the boards and would be even better than Risto at skating or passing the puck out of the zone. Who would be a better puck-moving defenceman? Karlsson maybe? Who has a bettter cannon from the point? Can he really be worse than Bogosian at defending? Sam can develop into a Bergeron/Toews level first line centre as he gets to shine in his rightful position feeding Kane. And everybody knows it is far easier to acquire a winger to do what Sam does now than it is to get a defenceman to do what we'd be asking Jack to do. We've been playing Sam out of position pretty much all year. Why not give it a try with Jack? It's interesting, I'll give you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Cleveland it is I was thinking Atlanta. Third time's the charm, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 This is what I think too. But in the spirit of original post: Move Jack to D. It would use our biggest strength to address our biggest weakness. Sure he might struggle initially with the defensive coverage, but you know he'd be Bobby Orr back there offensively pretty much immediately. He's strong on the boards and would be even better than Risto at skating or passing the puck out of the zone. Who would be a better puck-moving defenceman? Karlsson maybe? Who has a bettter cannon from the point? Can he really be worse than Bogosian at defending? Sam can develop into a Bergeron/Toews level first line centre as he gets to shine in his rightful position feeding Kane. And everybody knows it is far easier to acquire a winger to do what Sam does now than it is to get a defenceman to do what we'd be asking Jack to do. We've been playing Sam out of position pretty much all year. Why not give it a try with Jack? Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 OK. Here goes ... Move Samson to goal (I think he is taller than Jack, but if Jack is taller put him in net) ... the other can play wing to replace Kane. Put Lehner and his mean streak on D ... he'll be the second coming of Korab, or Schoney, maybe Playfair. Now we need a centre, or 2, so put Kane there and try one of the call ups today at centre too, why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 I was thinking Atlanta. Third time's the charm, right? I too think we belong in Atlantis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 I too think we belong in Atlantis The problem, of course, is that Atlantis has rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 The Flint Sabres has a nice ring to it. A bold move is trading for two young and mostly unproven D-men to round out our defence. Guys with like less than 50 games played and who are not considered up and coming stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 This is what I think too. But in the spirit of original post: Move Jack to D. It would use our biggest strength to address our biggest weakness. Sure he might struggle initially with the defensive coverage, but you know he'd be Bobby Orr back there offensively pretty much immediately. He's strong on the boards and would be even better than Risto at skating or passing the puck out of the zone. Who would be a better puck-moving defenceman? Karlsson maybe? Who has a bettter cannon from the point? Can he really be worse than Bogosian at defending? Sam can develop into a Bergeron/Toews level first line centre as he gets to shine in his rightful position feeding Kane. And everybody knows it is far easier to acquire a winger to do what Sam does now than it is to get a defenceman to do what we'd be asking Jack to do. We've been playing Sam out of position pretty much all year. Why not give it a try with Jack? This is ridiculous. ROR would be a Norris-calibre D, not Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Dan, Terry, Bob to the booth and RJ, Rayzor, Dunleavy behind the bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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