TrueBlueGED Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Not happening. Bogo had over 23 min vs the Jets -- 2nd-most on the team. I never said it was happening. I just think it should. Seriously though, if you want to label someone a concept, Bogosian is front and center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I never said it was happening. I just think it should. Seriously though, if you want to label someone a concept, Bogosian is front and center. Bogo hasn't played particularly well this season, but it's worth remembering that he's got a new coach, new system, new goalies and bunch of new teammates -- and he missed all of camp and a good chunk of the season. I'm pretty confident that he'll come around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 “I know some of the numbers and statistics that our team had when Mark was in the lineup. Our best possession game coincides with Mark being in the lineup, so I think we’ve been decent in possession and around average in the league, but I know the numbers with Mark were a lot better and that’s something we have missed with him out of the lineup.” Straight from the horses mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Bogo hasn't played particularly well this season, but it's worth remembering that he's got a new coach, new system, new goalies and bunch of new teammates -- and he missed all of camp and a good chunk of the season. I'm pretty confident that he'll come around. I like him, but a guy with that mix of skating and power should be better than what he is. When he plays it safe he neutralizes his gifts. When he tries to make a difference he makes mistakes. I think the coaching staff should unleash him, but that doesn't seem to be Bylsma's MO. Capturing his potential should be Terry Murray's pet project. Edited January 12, 2016 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Your 4 RD's.... Risto-Bogo-Franson-Pysyk Your 4 LD's..... Gorges-McCabe-Weber-Colo It will be interesting if anything much changes besides Pysyk getting a few minutes here and there until DB has faith in him to handle 3rd line minutes. I don't foresee him getting left side minutes though. When he's ready it looks like Franson may be the recipient of the odd man out. If I remember right, Pysyk played all last season on the left in Rochester, probably since the Sabres knew that was a needed position and they wanted to see if he could do it. He definitely bumps Weber and Cola on most nights. If he can play steady and solid when Risto skates into the zone, the Sabres could have something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I like him, but a guy with that mix of skating and power should be better than what he is. When he plays it safe he neutralizes his gifts. When he tries to make a difference he makes mistakes. I think the coaching staff should unleash him, but that doesn't seem to be Bylsma's MO. Capturing his potential should be Terry Murray's pet project. Agreed. I place Bogo's lack of impact squarely on DDB's shoulders. He's got Bogo playing too passive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Risto - Pysyk McCabe - Bogo Gorges - Franson Bylsma wasn't happy how the 1st D line cleared the zone, Look for Gorges to be demoted. Ristolainen looked terrible on the left side limitedly, Pysyk would play there easily before he would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Risto - Pysyk McCabe - Bogo Gorges - Franson Bylsma wasn't happy how the 1st D line cleared the zone, Look for Gorges to be demoted. Is this actually happening? I love it! That top 4 gives a huge boost in speed on the back-end which this team is sorely lacking. Now, just add in Tyson Barrie and somebody like Guhle in a season or two, and we're set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Ristolainen looked terrible on the left side limitedly, Pysyk would play there easily before he would. Also, I think it's a bad idea to put the two defensemen who can exit the zone effectively on the same pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Pysyk makes the best outlet passes on this team. Sorely needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 He's the new Bill Hajt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) He's the new Bill Hajt I also said that at one point. Many others rejoined saying he's more akin to Teppo. Which I would also love. http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/23414-roster-review-3-mark-pysyk/ Edited January 12, 2016 by That Aud Smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I also said that at one point. Many others rejoined saying he's more akin to Teppo. Which I would also love. http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/23414-roster-review-3-mark-pysyk/ Love that too. Another player that quietly made the team much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 There's been (understandably) a bit of disappointment in Bogosian this year so far, and I had been feeling the same way. But lately it does seem like he is coming around a little bit. I don't have the stats to back it up but the eye test, to me at least, seems to say Bogosian is starting to come around. I'd like to see: Gorges - Ristolainen McCabe - Bogosian Pysyk - Franson I think with Pysyk's steadiness on the third pairing, we would actually have 3 fairly solid D pairings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 There's been (understandably) a bit of disappointment in Bogosian this year so far, and I had been feeling the same way. But lately it does seem like he is coming around a little bit. I don't have the stats to back it up but the eye test, to me at least, seems to say Bogosian is starting to come around. I'd like to see: Gorges - Ristolainen McCabe - Bogosian Pysyk - Franson I think with Pysyk's steadiness on the third pairing, we would actually have 3 fairly solid D pairings. If Risto is going against the top line every night I would want to give him a better partner to make it more shut down worthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) If Risto is going against the top line every night I would want to give him a better partner to make it more shut down worthy I agree, but we are weak on the left side right now. I'd rather have Gorges there than McCabe currently, as McCabe makes too many rookie mistakes. If Pysyk switches effectively to the left side, I could see Pysyk - Ristolainen as the top pair later this season. But until Pysyk has adjusted and is a regular in our line-up again, I think that leaves Gorges as the best option. Edited January 14, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I would be interested in seeing Pysyk/Risto, Gorges/Bogo, McCabe/Franson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I would be interested in seeing Pysyk/Risto, Gorges/Bogo, McCabe/Franson I still like the lines someone (BJ?) mentioned the other day, McCabe - Risto Pysyk - Bogo Gorges - Franson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I love McCabe but at this point he is much less prepared for top pair minutes than Gorges. The Pysyk/Bogo match I've wanted since camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I love McCabe but at this point he is much less prepared for top pair minutes than Gorges. The Pysyk/Bogo match I've wanted since camp. Wait, do you mean McCabe is less prepared for the top pairing than Pysyk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Wait, do you mean McCabe is less prepared for the top pairing than Pysyk? I would say yes. McCabe has higher upside but right now makes more mistakes than Pysyk. While less dynamic, it would be easier I think to trust Pysyk with top pairs minutes at the present time, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Wait, do you mean McCabe is less prepared for the top pairing than Pysyk? No, I meant Gorges, in reference to your suggestion we drop Gorges to the third pair and move McCabe to the first. But I do think Pysyk is also better prepared for the top pair than McCabe. I'm mostly basing that on his play when he and Ehrhoff were our top pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 No, I meant Gorges, in reference to your suggestion we drop Gorges to the third pair and move McCabe to the first. But I do think Pysyk is also better prepared for the top pair than McCabe. I'm mostly basing that on his play when he and Ehrhoff were our top pair. Not sure why that baffled me on my first read through :doh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) He is paired with Colo this AM in practice, DB had four pairs today. Hopefully he is not scratched tomorrow Edited January 14, 2016 by BRAWNDO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 He is paired with Colo this AM in practice, DB had four pairs today. Hopefully he is not scratched tomorrow ugh. Hopefully it's just a matter of getting him back up to speed, maybe DB sees he's not quite there yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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