Onceagain Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 What's up with Zemgus this year? First point tonight in 9 games.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 The NHL is just not a high scoring league. The Ducks have been shut out 5 times already! Ya, some players will not score in stretches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Can we please start a thread where everyone complains about statistics and stuff on a 9 game sample? And you wait until after he scores a GWG to ask what's wrong with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Can we please start a thread where everyone complains about statistics and stuff on a 9 game sample? And you wait until after he scores a GWG to ask what's wrong with him? To be fair, it reads "what's up?" And it's a fair question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 The NHL is just not a high scoring league. The Ducks have been shut out 5 times already! Ya, some players will not score in stretches This game was a prime example of skill being nullified because crosschecking, holding, and especially interference don't get called in this league. I can't for the life of me figure out why the league wants to nullify speed and skill. Frustrates me as a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) To be fair, it reads "what's up?" And it's a fair question. Its a fair question if you understand the one and only answer is, its 9 games into the season and his production isnt there yet. He has the same amount of goals as sidney crosby for christ sake. Hockey and baseball are long seasons. When someone is significantly under producing only 9 games into the season, understand it is okay. And the other reason it is a silly question is there is no answer. If you think its fair, then give an answer as to whats up with him.... Edited October 28, 2015 by Johnny DangerFace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 He's also coming back from a significant injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 He's also coming back from a significant injury. Good, Whiskey, good. You get a doggie treat. Now how about you, Johnny? Don't you want a kibble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Its a fair question if you understand the one and only answer is, its 9 games into the season and his production isnt there yet. He has the same amount of goals as sidney crosby for christ sake. As somebody mentioned in the game day thread, there is also probably a bit of getting used to actually playing w/in an actual system again. Except for his brief stints w/ Rolston & Lindy, he's probably never played in a "system." Doubtful he saw a real one in the USHL & he definitely didn't in the Olympics nor on Teddy's Sabres. He'll get the hang of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 These guys are human, too. Well, some of them. Gus is no longer fresh meat. He's kind of old news and he's certainly no longer the best player on the team. Ted's gone and the new coach might not be so fawning and might have a different concept of how he fits in. The hockey reasons Taro mentioned and the injury factor are more tangible, but maybe Girgensons just has to wrap his head around a new reality for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 These guys are human, too. Well, some of them. Gus is no longer fresh meat. He's kind of old news and he's certainly no longer the best player on the team. Ted's gone and the new coach might not be so fawning and might have a different concept of how he fits in. The hockey reasons Taro mentioned and the injury factor are more tangible, but maybe Girgensons just has to wrap his head around a new reality for himself. reality wraps around Lord Zemgus, never the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 reality wraps around Lord Zemgus, never the other way around. The All-Star Game voting hasn't changed, right? If not, we'll likely see him there no matter what his stats look like :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 reality wraps around Lord Zemgus, never the other way around. I apologize for suggesting otherwise. What is my penance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I apologize for suggesting otherwise. What is my penance? You have to give Johnny Dangerface that treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 This game was a prime example of skill being nullified because crosschecking, holding, and especially interference don't get called in this league. I can't for the life of me figure out why the league wants to nullify speed and skill. Frustrates me as a fan. I guess they don't want to many penalties, or they are lazy or something. It is nonsense. If I could experiment I'd do away with the off side as long as a pass originate outside of attacking teams blue line. Just way open it up. So you could pass/shoot whatever from your own blue line in. But once inside zone defensive team could clear puck out of zone and attacking players would have to get out. I'd just like to see how that worked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 If I could experiment I'd do away with the off side as long as a pass originate outside of attacking teams blue line. Just way open it up. So you could pass/shoot whatever from your own blue line in. But once inside zone defensive team could clear puck out of zone and attacking players would have to get out. I'd just like to see how that worked Ovechkin would never leave the opponents' zone. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I guess they don't want to many penalties, or they are lazy or something. It is nonsense. If I could experiment I'd do away with the off side as long as a pass originate outside of attacking teams blue line. Just way open it up. So you could pass/shoot whatever from your own blue line in. But once inside zone defensive team could clear puck out of zone and attacking players would have to get out. I'd just like to see how that worked I would eliminate the provision that a goal scored during a delayed penalty nullifies the penalty. The delay is because the offending team doesn't possess the puck. Getting the extra man for however long is a product of the rule that will end play when the offending team gains possession. If a penalty gives you two bites at the apple, perhaps there would be a disincentive to take them flippantly. Of course we need to see that the severity of the impact doesn't effect the frequency of calls. In other words enforce what you have and make it sting more. Vancouver scored on a dlayed penalty last night, and it would have been grand if it only stopped play so the Canucks get start their power play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 If a penalty gives you two bites at the apple, perhaps there would be a disincentive to take them flippantly. I don't believe for a second this would have any effect whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Ovechkin would never leave the opponents' zone. Ever. He'll have to when the puck is cleared out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) Zemgus had a great goal last night. But outside of that there have been entire games where he has been useless. Last season he was an animal and now he looks like he is having trouble finding his way. I hope last night was a step in the correct direction and I know he isn't one of the top 2 talents on the team anymore but he needs to be better. Is Bylsma's system not good for him or is it the first real system Zemgus has had to learn? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J6i5RMYvKw Edited October 28, 2015 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Zemgus will be fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Perhaps Zemgus needs to watch a couple games from upstairs. Seriously though, I think you are right about this being his first experience in a real system. For all intents and purposes Nolan has been his only NHL coach and Bylsma's chess is nothing like Nolan's checkers. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Perhaps Zemgus needs to watch a couple games from upstairs. Seriously though, I think you are right about this being his first experience in a real system. For all intents and purposes Nolan has been his only NHL coach and Bylsma's chess is nothing like Nolan's checkers. GO SABRES!!! Maybe 1 game in the box with a coach would help. He seems to be behind the play more often than I ever remember. I think Bylsma system has a lot to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I have noticed zemgus going hard every game, but he seems to kinda be getting bounced around a lot, more than I'm used to seeing from the Latvian prince. Almost like he's still all about effort only without much tact.... Maybe just like the rest of the team a 20 game time to gel is appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I think he's going to struggle changing his game from the Ted Nolan style he's always known. It worked for him before, but he's got a real system to work with now. That's not as easy to get used to. I think he'll come along in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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