3putt Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Congrats. In 21 seasons he was a -53 total. I find that staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) One of those tweener guys who made it because of his longevity. No disrespect, but I wouldn't have voted for him. Edited June 29, 2015 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 21 seasons for a 5'10" 185 lb defenseman is pretty impressive. 4th all time in points by a defenseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 21 seasons for a 5'10" 185 lb defenseman is pretty impressive. 4th all time in points by a defenseman. Definitely. My formula for HoF is seasons of elite play (backed up with trophies, all-star selections, statistical dominance, leading role on elite teams) AND sustained excellence over a lengthy period. Housley has the latter, but not the former. Rick Martin had the former, but not the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) I think if you break the record for most points by an American-born player, you probably get an in. I mean, he averaged a career 0.82PPG. From the blueline. For almost 1500 games. For 21 years. Edited June 29, 2015 by IKnowPhysics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 I think if you break the record for most points by an American-born player, you probably get an in. Sounds like you are throwing down the gauntlet to Jackie Boy? G 741 A 650 1391 PTS. Have at it Jacko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 One of those tweener guys who made it because of his longevity. No disrespect, but I wouldn't have voted for him. Agreed. I think if you break the record for most points by an American-born player, you probably get an in. I mean, he averaged a career 0.82PPG. From the blueline. For almost 1500 games. For 21 years. Except when he was a forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 I'd be perfectly content if an American-born career Sabre were to topple Modano's point total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 I won't debate it. He was a special talent, for a long time. Here's the top search return for a Housley Sabres on the YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 His greatest asset was being North American. Poor Zubov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRobertEichel Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Wow, a lot of Haterade drinkers here....personally, I am always very happy to see any member of the Buffalo Sabres community make it into the Hall of Fame. I'm also rooting for Mogilny, Andreychuk, Turgeon, and Barrasso to make it in within the next 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) - Housley was awesome from an offensive standpoint, and if he was just two inches taller, probably would have made a great center. - Housley was a trainwreck from a defensive standpoint at the beginning, middle, and end of his career. I will alway remember the playoff game( I think it was against Montreal, maybe Taro, Tom Webster or other "old timers" can help), where he had the goalie screened, but stepped out of the way of blocking a shot at the last second. GWG/OT goal?? - A few years ago, Rob Ray stated Housley was the only teammate he ever had who he hated. LOL Edited June 29, 2015 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Wow, a lot of Haterade drinkers here....personally, I am always very happy to see any member of the Buffalo Sabres community make it into the Hall of Fame. I'm also rooting for Mogilny, Andreychuk, Turgeon, and Barrasso to make it in within the next 5 years. Maybe Richer will send him a fruit basket. He surely sends a card every Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 I'm surprised. I wouldn't have voted for him. Never thought of him as a first pairing defender. He was a spectacular skater, a powerplay weapon, and almost a 4th forward. But as a defender, nope. I can be happy for him though. Spent the 80's in a love/hate relationship with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Cool Fact @SNstats: Since 1981, 31% of all NHL players elected into the Hockey Hall of Fame have been coached by Scotty Bowman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I'm surprised. I wouldn't have voted for him. Never thought of him as a first pairing defender. He was a spectacular skater, a powerplay weapon, and almost a 4th forward. But as a defender, nope. I can be happy for him though. Spent the 80's in a love/hate relationship with him. Stated better than I could have worded it. Cool Fact @SNstats: Since 1981, 31% of all NHL players elected into the Hockey Hall of Fame have been coached by Scotty Bowman. :worthy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Cool Fact @SNstats: Since 1981, 31% of all NHL players elected into the Hockey Hall of Fame have been coached by Scotty Bowman. Scotty once told me the two best skaters he'd ever coached were Housley and Paul Coffey while in Pittsburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) - Housley was awesome from an offensive standpoint, and if he was just two inches taller, probably would have made a great center. - Housley was a trainwreck from a defensive standpoint at the beginning, middle, and end of his career. I will alway remember the playoff game( I think it was against Montreal, maybe Taro, Tom Webster or other "old timers" can help), where he had the goalie screened, but stepped out of the way of blocking a shot at the last second. GWG/OT goal?? - A few years ago, Rob Ray stated Housley was the only teammate he ever had who he hated. LOL Stephane Richer .... Housley went up on one tippie toe at the blue line. Edit: Oops, Taro got it. All in all, though, a great NHL career and deserving of the Hall. Edited June 30, 2015 by Neo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 31 goals as a 19 year old defenseman? Went right into the league out of high school? Deserving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) 31 goals as a 19 year old defenseman? Went right into the league out of high school? Deserving. Credit Scotty bowman for picking up on one of Herb Brooks innovations. Brooks started using Reijo Roustalainen as a hybrid type of player, a great skating but tiny offensive quarterback. Both those guys could skate circles around the type of third line players that the league was using to cover point at the time. The Sabres also used Hanu Virta in this roll, but more than one guy like that on the roster was a liability. Keep in mind that every team in the league was scoring 300+ goals at the time. The thing about Housley was that depending who was on the ice he was the biggest asset or the biggest liability. He really couldn't cover the back end so often he would cover point on the penalty kill. Ray Borque would literally straight arm Housley in the head pushing him back for 20 ft. like Butch vs Spanky and simply draging the puck behind him into the slot. I enjoyed watching Housley much more after he left Buffalo. But those first two years in the league were electric because he was playing an almost invented position for his skill set. Edited June 30, 2015 by X. Benedict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Reijo Ristlolainen? Missied it by this much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Reijo Ristlolainen? Missied it by this much. Sorry, Routsalainen. Spelling Finn defenders isn't my strong-point. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) I won't debate it. He was a special talent, for a long time. Here's the top search return for a Housley Sabres on the YouTube. Is that Robitaille doing the color on that broadcast? Sure sounds like him, but I don't remember him in that role other than as a fill-in and certainly not while Darling was doing play by play. EDIT: Yep, it's him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buffalo_Sabres_broadcasters#1990s I didn't have cable then, so I wouldn't ever have heard him and Darling together. I only got the games that were on Channel 29. Edited June 30, 2015 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I'd vote for Andreychuk first. I believe he is now the highest career scorer among HoF eligible players who aren't yet in (is Recchi eligible yet?). Pair that up with him having more PP goals than most players have career goals and I think that should be enough. And a quick tangent while looking at the all time scoring list. I didn't realize that Jagr could pass Gordie this year if he can duplicate last year's numbers. He'd be second all time if he hadn't left for the KHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 So happy he made it in. He played a long time and for too many teams, but he was a really good player. His points, and cup win were enough to finally get him in. I compare him to a Fred McGriff of MLB (who hasn't made it yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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