That Aud Smell Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Or maybe he's just from a different generation where he truly meant that as a compliment. I don't think it's a generational issue. I think it's a worldview issue. Not a big deal. But, as I said, it catches my ear in an unpleasant way. And this is coming from someone who is conscientiously raising my kids in a Christian faith, serves on committees at my church, gives as generously as I can to my church, etc. I do not find that kind of thing, in this kind of context, to be in any way offensive. Nor would I call it offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Malooga Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) I thought it was your edit, but whatever. I'd offer sheet Toffoli in a heartbeat if I could fill out the rest of the roster to sniff the playoffs. But gunning for a 40+ point improvement and gambling on it with what could be a high lottery pick is one hell of a risk. It was, actually. Lol. But, I think this team could make the playoffs... Kane - Eichel - Ennis Moulson - Reinhart - Toffoli Foligno - Girgensons - Gionta Deslauriers - Larsson - Kaleta Gorges - Bogosian Zadorov - Ristolainen McCabe - Pysyk (And that is without any other additions, just the offer sheet for Toffoli.) Or he thinks the Sabres will finish worse than the other team's whose picks they own.I would understand that more with a 1st or 2nd round pick, but it's a 3rd...still think it has to do with RFA's, no matter what he says. And I still think Toffoli will be his target. (Hockey Hotline mentioned Tarasenko...not happening.) EDIT: And I do not think that. He wants to win and he is building towards that now. He has previously said that he doesn't plan to use all his draft picks on prospects...and I take that as this year and next year. Edited May 29, 2015 by Bob Malooga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBHockey13 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) I don't want to be misunderstood: I admire all of what you just attributed to him. I just don't like when a guy like Pegula gets out there with the "Christian" label. Makes me think of sh!t like . . . My point being: If you're a Christian, and you're into being a Christian, and being with other Christians, just do it (sorry) - just be it. No need to yammer about it. If you do yammer about it, I will question your sincerity and/or authenticity. Or at least smirk and roll my eyes. So, you basically don't understand Christianity. You're not supposed to hide it. Of course, saying you are a Christian, and actually living your life as one are two different things.The whole preach often, and if necessary, use words. I'm a little uncomfortable to where this discussion is going. Sadly, though, this type of antagonistic relationship with Christianity is becoming more common these days. (sigh) And I actually came here because I was excited Duffer asked Dan about the "Disco Dan" nickname and mentioned he's a natural to attend the World's Largest Disco. Good stuff. Edited May 29, 2015 by MBHockey13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) So, you basically don't understand Christianity. I think I understand it quite well. And I would hope that the Josephites, Franciscans, and Jesuits who taught me from Kindergarten through my post-graduate degrees would agree. And I would hope that my pastor would agree; I trust he might, as he re-appointed me to the finance committee for another two years. I know that I live the faith far less well than I understand it. I'm not trying to cause offense. I just don't cotton to that sort of talk is all. Edited May 29, 2015 by That Aud Smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 It was, actually. Lol. But, I think this team could make the playoffs... Kane - Eichel - Ennis Moulson - Reinhart - Toffoli Foligno - Girgensons - Gionta Deslauriers - Larsson - Kaleta Gorges - Bogosian Zadorov - Ristolainen McCabe - Pysyk (And that is without any other additions, just the offer sheet for Toffoli.) I would understand that more with a 1st or 2nd round pick, but it's a 3rd...still think it has to do with RFA's, no matter what he says. And I still think Toffoli will be his target. (Hockey Hotline mentioned Tarasenko...not happening.) Any team with Gorges on the top pair and two rookie centers in the top-6 is not a playoff team in my eyes. I love that lineup's long term potential, but year 1 I see as a very rocky ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 You all understand that Jesus was not a Christian, right? Living a Christ like life. That is what we should all stive to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBHockey13 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I think I understand it quite well. And I would hope that the Josephites, Franciscans, and Jesuits who taught me from Kindergarten through my post-graduate degrees would agree. I know that I live it far less well than I understand it. I'm not trying to cause offense. I just don't cotton to that sort of talk is all. I'm not shy about attending Mass every Sunday and trying to be a better Christian/Catholic. I don't go around shouting about it - and I would be the last person to hold myself up as any type of example of how you should live your life - but I don't deny it, either. And yes, even though there are tons of hypocrites and bad people who claim to be Christian, and there are wonderful people who don't attend church services, I do tend to view someone with a strong faith a little more favorably than someone who doesn't. I definitely don't feel uncomfortable when someone makes mention that they're a Christian. Not sure why I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I definitely don't feel uncomfortable when someone makes mention that they're a Christian. It's all about context for me. I apologize for having caused any offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBHockey13 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 It's all about context for me. I apologize for having caused any offense. No problem. I'm probably a little overly sensitive about that kind of thing myself. Everyone's a little defensive these days. Still, nothing about Disco Dan and the World's Largest Disco? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I don't think it's a generational issue. I think it's a worldview issue. Not a big deal. But, as I said, it catches my ear in an unpleasant way. And this is coming from someone who is conscientiously raising my kids in a Christian faith, serves on committees at my church, gives as generously as I can to my church, etc. Nor would I call it offensive. I don't think it's a generational thing or a Christian thing or whatever. I just think it's Terry Pegula. The dude is just kind of a goof. He says weird things that make you tip your head to the side and go "eh?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I don't think it's a generational thing or a Christian thing or whatever. I just think it's Terry Pegula. The dude is just kind of a goof. He says weird things that make you tip your head to the side and go "eh?" This. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 No...that's the picture. It's a 30% smile of amazement, as in..."Are you F'n kidding me?"....and Bylsma is smiling at the reaction. Does it really matter what TM is smiling at or why he is smiling? IT'S A SMILE! I just thought it was unusual compared to his usual "i'm mad at the world" look. Does this make you feel better? Justin Kea Daniel Catenacci Jerome Leduc Kevin Sundher Matt McKenzie Brayden McNabb Corey Fienhage Corey Tropp MA Gragnani Andrej Sekera Clarke MacArthur Michael Tessier John Adams So there is a 30% chance he becomes an NHLers, with 0% chance being a difference maker. ...and the more picks you have the more the odds go up that you find a player that will make it to the show. I just don't like the idea of accumulating all these draft picks and then start including them in every single transaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Another Bylsma interview. This one he gets into some more specifics about what he thinks about some of our players. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bylsma-eichel-worth-the-hype/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Sorry, Aud, I wasn't expecting that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I'm not shy about attending Mass every Sunday and trying to be a better Christian/Catholic. I don't go around shouting about it - and I would be the last person to hold myself up as any type of example of how you should live your life - but I don't deny it, either. And yes, even though there are tons of hypocrites and bad people who claim to be Christian, and there are wonderful people who don't attend church services, I do tend to view someone with a strong faith a little more favorably than someone who doesn't. I definitely don't feel uncomfortable when someone makes mention that they're a Christian. Not sure why I would. You really shouldn't. Does it really matter what TM is smiling at or why he is smiling? IT'S A SMILE! I just thought it was unusual compared to his usual "i'm mad at the world" look. ...and the more picks you have the more the odds go up that you find a player that will make it to the show. I just don't like the idea of accumulating all these draft picks and then start including them in every single transaction. But that was half of the reason to acquire so many assets--not to use them all as they are, but to flip them into something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) You really shouldn't. But that was half of the reason to acquire so many assets--not to use them all as they are, but to flip them into something else. Not saying he has to keep all of them. Well I just hope he is more right than wrong when dealing picks... Two 2nd rounders for Gorges A 1st plus Armia(1st) plus Lemieux(1st pick of 2nd round) in Winnipeg trade Two 2nd rounders for Fasching and Deslauriers Edited May 29, 2015 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I think I understand it quite well. And I would hope that the Josephites, Franciscans, and Jesuits who taught me from Kindergarten through my post-graduate degrees would agree. And I would hope that my pastor would agree; I trust he might, as he re-appointed me to the finance committee for another two years. I know that I live the faith far less well than I understand it. I'm not trying to cause offense. I just don't cotton to that sort of talk is all. Ah, schooled by the Jesuits, no wonder you're so confused! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBHockey13 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 You really shouldn't. Why not? That's your opinion. We all make opinions about people differently than others. Judge not lest you be judged and all that but there are things I definitely admire in people that maybe others don't value the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Not saying he has to keep all of them. Well I just hope he is more right than wrong when dealing picks... Two 2nd rounders for Gorges A 1st plus Armia(1st) plus Lemieux(1st pick of 2nd round) in Winnipeg trade Two 2nd rounders for Fasching and Deslauriers That's probably the one that ends up looking ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 That's probably the one that ends up looking ugly. It was just one, Minnesota's. I think this year, though it might be next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 It was just one, Minnesota's. I think this year, though it might be next. Was it really? If so, I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 It was just one, Minnesota's. I think this year, though it might be next. Okay, less ugly. Why not? That's your opinion. We all make opinions about people differently than others. Judge not lest you be judged and all that but there are things I definitely admire in people that maybe others don't value the same way. Religious faith (or lack thereof) is a really bad proxy for quality of person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Religious faith (or lack thereof) is a really bad proxy for quality of person. This thread got really ugly. This I wholeheartedly agree with. The thoughts that everybody needs faith in religion in order to be a moral agent is a line of thinking that needs to continue to disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBHockey13 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 This thread got really ugly. This I wholeheartedly agree with. The thoughts that everybody needs faith in religion in order to be a moral agent is a line of thinking that needs to continue to disappear. I disagree. That is why we have different religions and different faiths and different opinions. But I have my values and beliefs and it's only natural to admire that in others. But there are many aspects to make me the person I am and the person I want to become and being a Catholic Christian is one of those things. I'm not going to hide or deny that. But I admire people of strong Jewish faith or Christian faith of other denominations as well. I'm not going to apologize for it, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 What about those without a strong religious faith? Or a religious faith at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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