dudacek Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) So basically when it's my turn I pick who I think is best of the remaining available players? Essentially my top 10 list has nothing to do with this. Yes, although I assume you will be picking a guy from you top 10 this round. And it is your turn. Hahaha true. So 2015 draft eligible players are in this draft too?Yes. 1 PAtrick Kane 2 Connor McDavid 3 JohnTavares JJ on the clock Qwk on deck Not the top three I would have predicted. Edited May 11, 2015 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Slow down! This draft is going too fast!!!! Edit: How do you get the vid to show up in the post? Can't seem to figure it out.. Edited May 11, 2015 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Edit: How do you get the vid to show up in the post? Can't seem to figure it out.. remove the S from HTTPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 With the 4th overall pick the Toronto Maple Leaves select Corey Perry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) With the 4th overall pick the Toronto Maple Leaves select Corey Perry. lol terrible PS - Are 2016 draftees eligible? Auston Matthews, hello. Edited May 11, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Wow, tons of high end guys sitting in the green room with cameras in their face. Fall down to 10 baby. You will love being the face of the franchise in Colorado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Four players deep and no Crosby, Stamkos, Ovechkin or Toews? Wtf? This is weird. Qwk is up, I'm on deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 remove the S from HTTPS Hmm still didn't work. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Hmm still didn't work. Oh well. Must be something with your computer, all I did was remove the S. Funny clip btw :lol: Edited May 11, 2015 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 OH I see what I did wrong now, I was selecting the "link" icon and using that to post it. Typing the link directly in the post AND removing the "s" did it. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 lol terrible PS - Are 2016 draftees eligible? Auston Matthews, hello. Please, explain............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Please, explain............... Corey Perry is a great player. But it's tough to build from the outside in, and Perry is 29 already. I would take him as a first line winger on my team any day, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Corey Perry is a great player. But it's tough to build from the outside in, and Perry is 29 already. I would take him as a first line winger on my team any day, though. Well, I didn't think we were building a roster for the future. I thought we were going for the best right now. 29 isn't old in my opinion. Point taken on building from the outside in. I was picking based on my top 10. I had Ovi at #1 but that was solely based on talent (which I guess isn't fair because I neglected to put Crosby in my top 10 for reasons other than his talent). But I think Ovi is detrimental to any team he would be on. His laziness and lack of consistency outweighs his talent. Perry is consistent, stays healthy, maintains an incredible shooting percentage and rarely disappears in the playoffs. Anybody that can have a 42 goal/season pace over the last 5 years in this day and age of low scoring, should be in the top. That's my reasoning anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Well, I didn't think we were building a roster for the future. I thought we were going for the best right now. 29 isn't old in my opinion. Point taken on building from the outside in. I was picking based on my top 10. I had Ovi at #1 but that was solely based on talent (which I guess isn't fair because I neglected to put Crosby in my top 10 for reasons other than his talent). But I think Ovi is detrimental to any team he would be on. His laziness and lack of consistency outweighs his talent. Perry is consistent, stays healthy, maintains an incredible shooting percentage and rarely disappears in the playoffs. Anybody that can have a 42 goal/season pace over the last 5 years in this day and age of low scoring, should be in the top. That's my reasoning anyways. It's solid reasoning and I agree with it for the most part. My only concern with Perry is it's Getzlaf feeding him and him reaping the benefits of a great center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Yup, the reasoning is fair enough. But for this excersise, it's about value, and sure, while Perry presents immediate talent, and although 29 isn't "old" for a hockey player, he's going to be passed his prime soon, so in my mind has less value going forward. As a GM starting a team from scatch right now, I wouldn't pick a 29 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Yup, the reasoning is fair enough. But for this excersise, it's about value, and sure, while Perry presents immediate talent, and although 29 isn't "old" for a hockey player, he's going to be passed his prime soon, so in my mind has less value going forward. As a GM starting a team from scatch right now, I wouldn't pick a 29 year old. Unless I'm mistaken, it's not. Hence why I went back and took Kane instead of Seguin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 As I say that, Perry has to get helped off the ice. It's solid reasoning and I agree with it for the most part. My only concern with Perry is it's Getzlaf feeding him and him reaping the benefits of a great center. Good point, I took that into consideration. It's tough to tell whether those two thrive because of each other, or if they really are that good regardless. Tough to tell since they've never really been with anybody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'lll try this one more time because we all obviously aren't on the same page. I read the question being posed by this thread as to who you would pick if you were starting a team from scratch, no strings attached. I thought it would turn into a good discussion of "this guy is better than that guy because...." I thought a draft would be a good way to see how valued players were. In the end we'd come up with a list of the top 300 players in the league as ranked by Sabrespace. There is no advantage to where you pick, there is no need to flip the order in the second round. It's not a pool. There is no winner. ***** I also like the idea of building a team, like SDS describes up thread, and like we do in the Sabrespace fantasy pools. I'm not sure how you would turn it into a competition, but it would probably result in a very different list because posters would have to draft for need. I'd be happy to play or host that one when this one is done. But this draft is not for need, it is for value. This is the post I was working off of. So my understanding of it is: player value overall being taken into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Age is a factor, but we're not a GM starting a team from scratch right now. If I get this it's more of a snap-shot in time of the players; 29 isn't old for a NHL player. Though I do agree if I were building a team I would look at how old they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 As I say that, Perry has to get helped off the ice. No backsies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 This just in......Las Vegas, Seattle, Quebec, and Hamilton have been awarded expansion franchises. You guys are going an extra 80 picks...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Is there going to be 31 picks in the 2nd round for compensation to the Blackhawks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I pick Taves, and changed the spelling of his stupid name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 My picked was based off of who I thought was the best overall NHL player available. John Tavares is a fantastic if you watch him play. Being buried on the NYI is one of the reasons I think he has a lower profile. If he were a Ranger, he would considered one of the best and rightfully so IMPO. That said, I don't think the interesting part of the draft will be the top 10 or even 20 but the later rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Crosby. He's starting to age and the concussion issues are a concern, but the skill set and track record are too good to ignore. And the cliche is true: I never thought he'd still be available. I would have picked Toews ahead of him. maybe McDavid. 1. WildCard (Buffalo) - Patrick Kane 2. Randall Flagg (Arizona) - Connor McDavid 3. Liger (Edmonton) - John Tavares 4. JJ (Toronto) - Corey Perry 5. Qwksndmonster (Carolina) - Jonathan Toews 6. Dudacek (New Jersey) - Sidney Crosby 7. Eleven (Philly) - 8. WildCard (Columbus) - 9. Thorny (San Jose) - 10. Derrico (Colorado) - Eleven, you're up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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