Hoss Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Well with johnson we got our back up for next year, allthough i'd rather see makarov get a shot there next year. I don't see Johnson being on the team beyond this season. He may be in Rochester but not here. I think Murray wants a clean slate at the position going into next season. Maybe he brings back one of Neuvirth/Enroth but I think at least one will be somebody who hasn't played here (Niemi, Subban, Smith from LA, Driedger/Lehner from Ottawa, Reimer/Bernier from Toronto, Allen/Elliot if St. Louis wants to change that position, Lack/Markstrom from Vancouver, etc...) there are tons of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I don't see Johnson being on the team beyond this season. He may be in Rochester but not here. I think Murray wants a clean slate at the position going into next season. Maybe he brings back one of Neuvirth/Enroth but I think at least one will be somebody who hasn't played here (Niemi, Subban, Smith from LA, Driedger/Lehner from Ottawa, Reimer/Bernier from Toronto, Allen/Elliot if St. Louis wants to change that position, Lack/Markstrom from Vancouver, etc...) there are tons of options. Yeah just seen his press conference he pretty much said he was looking for trade partner with a backup goalie he thinks can be starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byebye Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Seriously, what are the conditions on that pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Sabres get the higher of the two 2016 3rd Rounders that the Isles have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 This is the only trade that I question. You need a goalie no matter what people would like to believe, and I hope they think they have one in the system for when it's time to start winning again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 This is the only trade that I question. You need a goalie no matter what people would like to believe, and I hope they think they have one in the system for when it's time to start winning again. They just traded away two UFA goalies. Decent chance of resigning one of them back; it may be their only chance at being a starter. I'm sure GMTM kept the door open for either of them to return and will pursue one or both (ultimately probably signing only one) this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 They just traded away two UFA goalies. Decent chance of resigning one of them back; it may be their only chance at being a starter. I'm sure GMTM kept the door open for either of them to return and will pursue one or both (ultimately probably signing only one) this summer. I just think it's a risk that we didn't need to take just so that Schoop and Jeremy can sleep more easily for a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I just think it's a risk that we didn't need to take just so that Schoop and Jeremy can sleep more easily for a month. It wasn't just for Schoop and Jeremy. I'm sure GMTM was sweating in a bit, too (not that you'd know it.) I know I'll sleep better having made that move. Heck, even after making it, I'm not confident. If we hadn't made it, I would have all-but-guaranteed drafting 3-4 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Sources close to the scene tell me that I hear that GMTM came *this close to acquiring Wang's Sumo wrestler goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I just think it's a risk that we didn't need to take just so that Schoop and Jeremy can sleep more easily for a month. What's the risk? That you may have more competition to sign two mediocre goalies with some potential to be better? Neither of these guys are anywhere near proven starters so dealing them away doesn't change much aside from giving up more assets. Somewhere in this thread or another I listed some options Murray will have for acquiring goalies going forward. It'll be fine or it won't. But I don't think having Neuvirth would've made a huge difference between fine and not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 This whole situation is embarrassing, but that doesn't make it untrue, Johnson was not brought in because hey think he is a better option then Neuvirth, they got rid of him because they didn't want to come up with an excuse for sitting him the rest of the year and he was playing well enough to possibly cost them the precious #30th spot. If they didn't care about that and they felt he was their goalie of the future he would have been made an offer to stay. This move was a dump to continue to lose and get another pick Actually, by trading away Neuvirth you give him a shot at the playoffs and a chance at the Cup. You are rewarding him for playing on your team and putting up with everything. In return the Sabres get a safety net at the moment and a draft pick. If Neuvirth wants to be in Buffalo he can come back (assuming Murray wants him). I just think it's a risk that we didn't need to take just so that Schoop and Jeremy can sleep more easily for a month. No risk. It's a standard hockey move and if the Sabres were in 24th position no one would even be questioning it. Neuvirth made himself available by winning and playing well. He did this for a chance to be moved and Murray moved him. It does help the Sabres as well, there's no doubt. But there are more aspects to this. People are getting caught up in the finish last mode but the moves made are all standard hockey moves made by a selling team every year. Just because it brings them down for the rest of the season does not automatically mean it's a tank move. It has multiple purposes to be certain. But teams trade UFAs all the time... regardless of position. Halak was shipped twice last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 This trade of the four yesterday seemed the most obvious. He was playing very well and he had played his way onto the trade market. It makes sense for the Islanders with the lack luster performance of Johnson, though his last 3-4 starts have been more encouraging. Either way they got an additional asset in a weak goalie market. It seemed to me that Murray in some cases found good fits for these four guys and let the assets be a little more flexible. I was surprised Flynn was traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodork Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Nice avatar update, LTS. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Nice avatar update, LTS. :thumbsup: It's another train. Or imminent death. This is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodork Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 It's another train. Or imminent death. This is not good. Wouldn't have pegged you for a Metallica fan. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Nice avatar update, LTS. :thumbsup: We could be blocked at the end of that tunnel down in Florida though :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 It's another train. Or imminent death. This is not good. I feel like the Sabres have performed a train on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Q to the mods. Can whoever changed the thread title to say the Sabres get a 2015 3rd please change it back to a 2016 3rd? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Q to the mods. Can whoever changed the thread title to say the Sabres get a 2015 3rd please change it back to a 2016 3rd? Thanks in advance. I believe since you started the thread you should be able to change the title at will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I believe since you started the thread you should be able to change the title at willI can. But, I didn't change the title to make the pick incorrect and would appreciate it if whoever altered the title put it back to what it correctly stated before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 The train hitting the cat. I needed that right about now. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 The train hitting the cat. I needed that right about now. :) :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/michal-neuvirth-embraced-personal-positive-in-buffalo-tank-job-161315699.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/michal-neuvirth-embraced-personal-positive-in-buffalo-tank-job-161315699.html "Michal Neuvirth didn’t see the constant parade of star players leaving the Buffalo Sabres as a major problem..." Ooooook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 "Michal Neuvirth didn’t see the constant parade of star players leaving the Buffalo Sabres as a major problem..." Ooooook. What parade? What star players? He wasn't here for any of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.