PASabreFan Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Oh my goodness! The coil has been lifted from my eyes! I understand it all, now! How would the taxpayers' money be any better spent if the Bills were a powerhouse year in and year out? I love how you competently place your apostrophes. Bringing sexy back to SabreSpace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Down by 3, against the Pats, at mid-field, 4th and 7 with five minutes left.................... I'm not sure I'd punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Are numbers available indicating tax dollars to the Bills compared to the economic impact of the Bills on the area? My understanding is that no professional sports team has enough economic impact to make tax money sunk into facilities, etc. an economic net gain for a region. Can't say I have a link to back it up. I'm sure someone more ambitious than me with find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 My understanding is that no professional sports team has enough economic impact to make tax money sunk into facilities, etc. an economic net gain for a region. Can't say I have a link to back it up. I'm sure someone more ambitious than me with find one.There's a last week tonight with John Olliver about stadiums. He refers to a few studies that found no connection between a sports stadium and economic growth. I don't know the specific studies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 My understanding is that no professional sports team has enough economic impact to make tax money sunk into facilities, etc. an economic net gain for a region. Can't say I have a link to back it up. I'm sure someone more ambitious than me with find one. I would think there would have to be an economic impact study done somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 My understanding is that no professional sports team has enough economic impact to make tax money sunk into facilities, etc. an economic net gain for a region. Can't say I have a link to back it up. I'm sure someone more ambitious than me with find one. Must-watch on stuff like this: Obama needs to levy an Executive Order stopping taxpayer money for stadiums. My ideas: limit the percentage and total $$$ a team can get from the public, require them to open their books if they're requesting taxpayer money, require votes for approval and require some revenues to go towards repaying the tax breaks given. There's a last week tonight with John Olliver about stadiums. He refers to a few studies that found no connection between a sports stadium and economic growth. I don't know the specific studies. ^^^ Beat me to it. Link above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I would think there would have to be an economic impact study done somewhere. There have been many studies done but the problem as with most studies is that they tend to be less then objective. In an ideal world there would be no use of public funds to benefit any private enterprise and then there would be less need for all the layers of wasteful government ..... Another thread.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Arian Foster carted off amidst a blowout loss. Why in the world would he still be in the game at all. Bill O'Brian is the next coach to get fired, right? Might actually be a race between him and Pagano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Can you imagine what a new Bills stadium will cost the taxpayers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I would think there would have to be an economic impact study done somewhere. They are out there. I am just too damned uninterested to dig one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I'm not doubting your fandom, I'm despising your ###### attitude towards those with some enthusiasm. Rex Ryan's Bills have been a huge disappointment so far, clearly this has everything to do with the past 15 years. Just looking our for my fellow brothers and sisters who are shackled with this Bills fandom anchor like me. They could bring back the resurrected corpse of Vince Lombardi and I still wouldn't be sold on a playoff team until it actually happens, nor should you. I know you don't want to admit it, but 16 years of irrelevance does mean something on a multitude of levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 We all go about our fandoms differently.......and there are no winners here :wallbash: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 We all go about our fandoms differently.......and there are no winners here :wallbash: Yes we do, some longer than others. Just looking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Bill Barnwell @billbarnwell 2m2 minutes ago Matt Cassel starts 3-7 for 29 yards with a missed red zone conversion for first down and a dropped pick-six. If only we had kept him!!! :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 We all go about our fandoms differently.......and there are no winners here :wallbash: the Bills fan song should be Everyones a Loser by hot chocolate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 He's anticipating the snap. They have to snap it before zero. its actually rather intelligent for him to jump then. .................... good point in theory---but given Hughes history I highly doubt that he intended that. ...he went over the line before zero hit. And then he was pointing at the clock-.Any movement by the O line at that point COULD HAVE been construed as encroachment even though the ball wasn't snapped.That play is kinda on the official's mood at the time unfortunately. The point I was making was that Hughes almost screwed that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Missed the game. How did our last 4 years worth of first round picks do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 .................... good point in theory---but given Hughes history I highly doubt that he intended that. ...he went over the line before zero hit. And then he was pointing at the clock-.Any movement by the O line at that point COULD HAVE been construed as encroachment even though the ball wasn't snapped.That play is kinda on the official's mood at the time unfortunately. The point I was making was that Hughes almost screwed that up. I think you're way off here. Hughes didn't move until the moment before the whistles were blown. The zero was there for almost a second before he jumped. He was even pointing at the clock before he jumped. It was intentional all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 The Bills are looking more like last year's NY Jets than an improvement on Doug Marrone's winning season Bills of 2014; And EJ Manuel had a terrible game against an awful opponent - he's about as big a waste of a draft pick as Aaron Maybin was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Missed the game. How did our last 4 years worth of first round picks do? Sammy Watkins, 2014 and 2015 first round pick, was out. EJ Manuel, 2013 first round pick, was terrible. Stephon Gilmore, 2012 first round pick, is awesome and part of the loan bright spot for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Sammy Watkins, 2014 and 2015 first round pick, was out. EJ Manuel, 2013 first round pick, was terrible. Stephon Gilmore, 2012 first round pick, is awesome and part of the loan bright spot for this team. I agree with you that Gillmore is awesome and a bright spot although hardly a "lone" bright spot. Today. however, wasn't one of his stronger efforts although still probably above average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Sammy Watkins, 2014 and 2015 first round pick, was out. EJ Manuel, 2013 first round pick, was terrible. Stephon Gilmore, 2012 first round pick, is awesome and part of the loan bright spot for this team. Well, that doesn't bode well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I agree with you that Gillmore is awesome and a bright spot although hardly a "lone" bright spot. Today. however, wasn't one of his stronger efforts although still probably above average. Well the defensive line hasn't been a bright spot. The linebackers have been solid but nothing to write home about. The offensive skill positions have seen injuries and poor play for the most part aside from Charles Clay. The offensive line has been questionable. Tyrod Taylor has been solid but the injury is worrisome for a guy like him. Colton Schmidt has been a bright spot. So the punter and the corners? :p (Don't freak out, I'm mostly kidding) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 No love for Ronald Darby, Hoss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 No love for Ronald Darby, Hoss? A TON of love for him. That's why I said Gilmore is part of the lone bright spot. The cornerback tandem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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