PotentPowerPlay22 Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Based on the Sekera trade and the Vermette trade, I am now convinced the Sabres can get a 1st round pick plus a prospect for Stewart. I don't expect much for the other UFA's, but maybe Murray will finally prove to everyone he knows what he's doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Based on the Sekera trade and the Vermette trade, I am now convinced the Sabres can get a 1st round pick plus a prospect for Stewart. I don't expect much for the other UFA's, but maybe Murray will finally prove to everyone he knows what he's doing. Sekera and Vermette have a lot more value than Stewart. Maybe one. Definitely not both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byebye Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Stewart to Boston(half salary retained) and a 4th for a 1st. Mezaros will go for a prospect(expect to retain salary or acquire a salary dump player) the other ufas can go for future considerations for all I care. Look at the points McDavid is putting up compared to mackinnon or any other 1st overall selection. I would ship guys with expiring contracts for virtually nothing to get a better chance at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Sekera and Vermette have a lot more value than Stewart. Maybe one. Definitely not both. I think they are all roughly in the same boat. Vermette's versatility probably helps his cause since he can play center and win draws, but I think Stewart is the prototypical big-body forward that teams look for to grind it out in the playoffs. Stewart is also younger (not that it necessarily matters since they're rentals, but some team might see value in his youth/potential to re-sign). There's also these cool charts from Own The Puck (http://ownthepuck.blogspot.ca/) that I'm sure some of you saw floating around twitter after the Vermette trade. Comparing him and Stewart, I think Stewart has proven the more valuable player. But either way, their perceived value isn't all that important -- we all know teams get desperate and overpay, as we saw with the Sekera trade. Some team that only offered a second round pick yesterday might offer a first tomorrow, now that Vermette is off the table and their options are dwindling. Edited March 1, 2015 by thesportsbuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 But either way, their perceived value isn't all that important -- we all know teams get desperate and overpay, as we saw with the Sekera trade Why was a first round pick overpayment for Sekera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Why was a first round pick overpayment for Sekera? Late first rounder for a top 4 D is in the ballpark. The only thing that makes the price high is his UFA status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Why was a first round pick overpayment for Sekera? Well it was a pick and a prospect who I know nothing about, but must have SOME kind of value, for a rental. To a team that could potentially miss the playoffs, making it a middle round pick. We got McBain and an early 2nd for him, so I guess that balances out pretty closely if they do make playoffs, but he also wasn't a rental at that point. Edited March 1, 2015 by thesportsbuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Okay well now all this Vermette hold-up is done, I except for Stewart to be the next rental forward off the board along with Glencross. Lets go Boston, if you want to save your season and GM/HC its time to pay up. Not that I really care because I have no issue watching Chiarelli and company failing. :) Edited March 1, 2015 by TheCerebral1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sloth Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Just a crazy conspiracy theory. Stewart has done plenty to increase his trade value over the past two months. Why risk injury by playing him last night? Maybe Murray is trying to show other GM's he's willing to keep Stewart if he doesn't get a legit offer. Of course the other part of that theory is it's a big bluff. Trade Stewart to better the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Just a crazy conspiracy theory. Stewart has done plenty to increase his trade value over the past two months. Why risk injury by playing him last night? Maybe Murray is trying to show other GM's he's willing to keep Stewart if he doesn't get a legit offer. Of course the other part of that theory is it's a big bluff. Trade Stewart to better the tank. Could be, but as he's repeatedly stated, he will make the deal with any pending UFA's if there is an offer. He'll be dealt one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Well it was a pick and a prospect who I know nothing about, but must have SOME kind of value, for a rental. To a team that could potentially miss the playoffs, making it a middle round pick. We got McBain and an early 2nd for him, so I guess that balances out pretty closely if they do make playoffs, but he also wasn't a rental at that point. We only got a 2nd and McBain for Sekera because Regier criminally undervalued him and/or wanted to make the team worse. That trade still pisses me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 We only got a 2nd and McBain for Sekera because Regier criminally undervalued him and/or wanted to make the team worse. That trade still pisses me off. He must have been listening to the fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Edmonton might be trying to add ahead of the deadline: Lavoie: Oilers are looking for goaltenders. They were looking at what the Maple Leafs goalies in the last few weeks. #tvasports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Is the that the unexpected call Murray got last week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) TheFourthPeriod: In addition to Chris Stewart, Sabres are expected to trade F Torrey Mitchell by tomorrow's deadline, as well. Curtis Glencross was just pulled of the ice at #Flames practice. Edited March 1, 2015 by Tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Sakic says COL isn't interested in acquiring rentals or moving ROR before the deadline. Says he'll attempt to re-sign ROR in the offseason. http://www.nhl.com/ice/m_blogs.htm?id=37519 Curtis Glencross was just pulled of the ice at #Flames practice. . He's a competing asset in the Stewart marketplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) TheFourthPeriod: In addition to Chris Stewart, Sabres are expected to trade F Torrey Mitchell by tomorrow's deadline, as well. Curtis Glencross was just pulled of the ice at #Flames practice. Those 2 and Neuvirth are the 3 that I'd expect to see go. I'd be shocked if Mitchell and Stewart aren't gone and put the probability of seeing Lindback in TB at 70%. Wouldn't be surprised to see somone from Ra-cha-cha included as sweetener as well. Would be surprised if Beano or Mess get dealt - their contribution to the cause is too important to lose for the 4th/5th that either would bring back. Edited March 1, 2015 by Taro T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Reports coming out of Calgary are that not only was Glencross pulled off the ice but he was also put on a bus and has left the arena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 The players did a salute to Glencross when he left the ice and then a player shouted to the media in the crowd "where was he traded?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 The players did a salute to Glencross when he left the ice and then a player shouted to the media in the crowd "where was he traded?" :lol: So no reply from the peanut gallery when asked? Bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 The RUMOR is he was traded to the caps for a pick and a prospect but I can't confirm that from anyone I actually trust on the interwebs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 :lol: So no reply from the peanut gallery when asked? Bummer. It's partially relieving that the media is in the dark for once. My guess is Washington or Boston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sloth Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) It's partially relieving that the media is in the dark for once. My guess is Washington or Boston. I'm hoping Washington. I know Boston has said it'd take a big offer to get Subban, but if Murray could acquire him w/ the use of Stewart + X, I'd be very happy. Edited March 1, 2015 by thanes16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Glencross is breaking twitter because no one knows where the hell he is actually going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 TheFourthPeriod: In addition to Chris Stewart, Sabres are expected to trade F Torrey Mitchell by tomorrow's deadline, as well. Curtis Glencross was just pulled of the ice at #Flames practice. Thank goodness. As far as I can tell, he's a player that would never factor in to a contending team but is just good enough that he could screw up the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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