shrader Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I think the consideration has been hinted at, but I'd imagine there would be a lot of pushback from players because of the travel involved. I do think it makes a lot of sense from a single year perspective, but I do have a bit of traditionalist in me and like rivalries that emerge from divisions and conferences mattering. I could go either way with this stuff. And these leagues are never going to create a truly balanced schedule. The travel would be too difficult with that. Without a balanced schedule, a format with the top 16 would not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I hate outside the box thinking, to be perfectly honest. Just move Columbus to the West and switch Carolina with Florida and Tampa division wise. Lastly add a 24th roster spot to all the teams. Then a team can carry 2 Fs and 2 Ds extra. There's no need for radical changes or convoluted systems, add two teams and be done with it for another 15 or so years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I hate outside the box thinking, to be perfectly honest. Just move Columbus to the West and switch Carolina with Florida and Tampa division wise. Lastly add a 24th roster spot to all the teams. Then a team can carry 2 Fs and 2 Ds extra. There's no need for radical changes or convoluted systems, add two teams and be done with it for another 15 or so years. "I hate outside the box thinking..." "Add a random extra roster spot that nobody has brought up in this discussion." :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 The Vegas jersey technology is already set. It'll be a modified version of: http://www.t-shirttv.com/shop-2/ If they don't use that I will be quite upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I guess Napoleon wasn't happy with the results of the applicants. It's quite apparent who he wants in the league, if he's going to push to try and get Seattle to join and I were Quebec, I would pursue a lawsuit to get my $2,000,000 back. http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/798068 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I guess Napoleon wasn't happy with the results of the applicants. It's quite apparent who he wants in the league, if he's going to push to try and get Seattle to join and I were Quebec, I would pursue a lawsuit to get my $2,000,000 back. http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/798068 Is that the first time "Napoleon" was used to describe Bettman? It's a perfect fit, and if your the originator, well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I guess Napoleon wasn't happy with the results of the applicants. It's quite apparent who he wants in the league, if he's going to push to try and get Seattle to join and I were Quebec, I would pursue a lawsuit to get my $2,000,000 back. http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/798068 He won't have to do any pushing. There are ownership groups in Seattle that want a team and the city supports the idea. There just wasn't enough time to get it all together for the downtown arena or for the Tukwila one. Quebec would have no argument for getting their money back, nor do I think they care about the $2M. Especially if the league says "no, but you're number one on our list for relocation." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Gary has already commented there is no difference of a 17-15 breakdown compared to the current 16-14 conference breakdown. That will leave a opening to move Arizona, Carolina or Florida to the Seattle area if needed or really to still allow Seattle and Portland to have expansion teams enter the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Is that the first time "Napoleon" was used to describe Bettman? It's a perfect fit, and if your the originator, well done! Nah, can't take credit for it. My friend calls him that all the time and I thought it was kinda clever..... and very fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I wonder how Bettman feels about water slides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Gary has already commented there is no difference of a 17-15 breakdown compared to the current 16-14 conference breakdown. Sure there is. Having an imbalance between the divisions within a conference is going to get a lot of complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 "I hate outside the box thinking..." "Add a random extra roster spot that nobody has brought up in this discussion." :p I'm just making the box a tad bigger. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I wonder how Bettman feels about water slides. Is that a Bill and Ted reference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Is that a Bill and Ted reference? Does Napoleon like ice cream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Is that a Bill and Ted reference? Clearly you're not familiar with French history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I wonder how Bettman feels about water slides. Is that a Bill and Ted reference? :worthy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 So it looks like we've got two years left of hockey in Glendale: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/glendale/2015/07/23/glendale-proposed-coyotes-arena-deal/30578215/ The new deal, if approved, will expire in 2017... Just in time for them to move to another city along with the league's two new expansion teams. If the city of Arizona doesn't save them there's no doubt in my mind they're elsewhere in 2017-18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 So it looks like we've got two years left of hockey in Glendale: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/glendale/2015/07/23/glendale-proposed-coyotes-arena-deal/30578215/ The new deal, if approved, will expire in 2017... Just in time for them to move to another city along with the league's two new expansion teams. If the city of Arizona doesn't save them there's no doubt in my mind they're elsewhere in 2017-18. It's all falling into place. Expansion to QC and LV, relocation to Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 It's all falling into place. Expansion to QC and LV, relocation to Seattle. In terms of total dollars and cents, it may be better for a prospective Seattle owner to take the saved franchise fee and invest in an arena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeanbe Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 So it looks like we've got two years left of hockey in Glendale: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/glendale/2015/07/23/glendale-proposed-coyotes-arena-deal/30578215/ The new deal, if approved, will expire in 2017... Just in time for them to move to another city along with the league's two new expansion teams. If the city of Arizona doesn't save them there's no doubt in my mind they're elsewhere in 2017-18. The Suns are in the market for a new arena downtown and there is talk about making it for both hockey and basketball. The city of PHX would like the Yotes to move back to downtown so this is good news for me on the deal if they can swing it for the team to play downtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Sure there is. Having an imbalance between the divisions within a conference is going to get a lot of complaints. With the wildcards, it's really moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 The Suns are in the market for a new arena downtown and there is talk about making it for both hockey and basketball. The city of PHX would like the Yotes to move back to downtown so this is good news for me on the deal if they can swing it for the team to play downtown. Have heard the same from reporters. But it'll be interesting. Whatever happens I imagine we'll know well before that offseason, so Phoenix will likely have to get the arena act together quick (same with Seattle). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 With the wildcards, it's really moot. I'm not sure how that relates to the topic of a top 16 format though. The wild cards are fine given that the schedules aren't too different within conference. It's that east vs. west direct comparison that is always going to be trouble given the restraints of travel budgets on scheduling. So it looks like we've got two years left of hockey in Glendale: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/glendale/2015/07/23/glendale-proposed-coyotes-arena-deal/30578215/ The new deal, if approved, will expire in 2017... Just in time for them to move to another city along with the league's two new expansion teams. If the city of Arizona doesn't save them there's no doubt in my mind they're elsewhere in 2017-18. That and expansion right in time for the NHL's 100th anniversary. How convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Bettman: NHL would "have to consider" putting Quebec franchise in the Western Conference. http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/799618?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter That's stupid. No need to consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Bettman: NHL would "have to consider" putting Quebec franchise in the Western Conference. http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/799618?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter That's ###### stupid. No need to consider it. There's also no need to consider expansion, yet here we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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