Johnny DangerFace Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 yup. Yes he will dart in for a scoring opportunity but he is not a possession player capable of forechecking and playing a power game, which is the kind of team TM is building. Well he isn't a power forward and you can't have a team full of power forwards. Moulson is a pure goal scorer who plays in the dirty areas, isn't afraid to get hit, and produces points. I think he fits in well with the team build IMO. I guess we'll find out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 In year 5 of that contract we should be challenging for a cup. That 5 mill in cap space could be the difference between us bringing in someone to put us over the top, or not being able to. Moulson will be 36 by then, and we know what happens to smallish goal scorers when they hit 30. I would have rather they paid him 3 years 21 mill or even 4 years at whatever. That 5th year really sticks in my craw. 6'1" 205lbs is smallish? :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg1 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 yup. Yes he will dart in for a scoring opportunity but he is not a possession player capable of forechecking and playing a power game, which is the kind of team TM is building. Sorry to be a pest, but if this is the team that GMTM is building, why did GMTM just sign a guy who doesn't do the things that GMTM want done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 In year 5 of that contract we should be challenging for a cup. That 5 mill in cap space could be the difference between us bringing in someone to put us over the top, or not being able to. Moulson will be 36 by then, and we know what happens to smallish goal scorers when they hit 30. I would have rather they paid him 3 years 21 mill or even 4 years at whatever. That 5th year really sticks in my craw. I completely agree that 3 or 4 would have been better, but no one of value will be leaving RFA before that year, so I doubt we'll need to money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Matt Larkin @THNMattLarkin 55s Great day to be a Sabres fan. Love what this team is doing. An emerging tidal wave that will rise over next five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I completely agree that 3 or 4 would have been better, but no one of value will be leaving RFA before that year, so I doubt we'll need to money. Maybe not, but I would expect us to give long term deals to some of them while they are still RFAs. For instance, I don't see us bridging Reinhart and next year's #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 In year 5 of that contract we should be challenging for a cup. That 5 mill in cap space could be the difference between us bringing in someone to put us over the top, or not being able to. Moulson will be 36 by then, and we know what happens to smallish goal scorers when they hit 30. I would have rather they paid him 3 years 21 mill or even 4 years at whatever. That 5th year really sticks in my craw. Not worried. We could have an 80 million cap in 5 years and an owner not afraid to buy out players. NMCs get waived all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcsaberks Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Who was the draft pick in that deal? We technically got Gorges, Mitchell, and WHO...for Moulson and McCormick? Vaclav Karabacek Don't forget Darcy's theft w/ Moulson/Vanek. 5/5 works for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Mind. Blown. Hey...that's what my daughter's Furbie, Bee-dah says...got any other Furbisms? Lmao! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Murray is awesome... Scotty @ScottySlice 1m "Looking back: the Sabres traded Moulson and McCormick for Mitchell, Gorges, a 2nd-round pick, Moulson and McCormick."@ScarpalTunnel That's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Maybe not, but I would expect us to give long term deals to some of them while they are still RFAs. For instance, I don't see us bridging Reinhart and next year's #1. but we won't lose them if we have to bridge 'em. Again, 3-4 would have been better, this won't kill us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Vaclav Karabacek Don't forget Darcy's theft w/ Moulson/Vanek. 5/5 works for me! That's right. At this point we already have the top rated prospect pool in hockey and have a bunch more picks in the next couple of drafts. Time to make the team better not just keep obsessing over losing on purpose. We've got the prospect to put a very good team together in the near future, whether we're dead last this year or not. Edited July 1, 2014 by Potato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 but we won't lose them if we have to bridge 'em. Again, 3-4 would have been better, this won't kill us. We wouldn't lose them, but we would end up paying them more in the long run, which is sort of self-defeating. I'm not worried about it to be honest, just saying I don't think bridging them is a good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Sorry to be a pest, but if this is the team that GMTM is building, why did GMTM just sign a guy who doesn't do the things that GMTM want done? moulson isn't weak on the puck. He's not going to beat you up, but consistently goes to the scoring areas. Not bad for a guy that can pot 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 6'1" 205lbs is smallish? :huh: and gerbe is 5'7". look at him on the ice. He's not that big. And he certainly doesn't play anywhere near that big. Agree or disagree, I don't care. My point isn't as much about the player as it is about the term. Especially in light of the fact he will be 36 in the final year of that contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 moulson isn't weak on the puck. He's not going to beat you up, but consistently goes to the scoring areas. Not bad for a guy that can pot 25. He goes to where the goals are scored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I like this signing a lot, unlike the Leino contract; Moulson has been a consistent performer. I think Matty Moulson could be a very effective player for at least 4 of those 5 years. Plus he's a quality locker room guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 In year 5 of that contract we should be challenging for a cup. That 5 mill in cap space could be the difference between us bringing in someone to put us over the top, or not being able to. Moulson will be 36 by then, and we know what happens to smallish goal scorers when they hit 30. I would have rather they paid him 3 years 21 mill or even 4 years at whatever. That 5th year really sticks in my craw. Your posts are buzzkill and make it obvious you don't like Moulson. Fair enough but please don't tell me this deal will handcuff us anytime down the road. It won't. We have a skill guy coming back and we threw him a bone with NTC. I don't know if it is full or limited but don't care. This is all good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Your posts are buzzkill and make it obvious you don't like Moulson. Fair enough but please don't tell me this deal will handcuff us anytime down the road. It won't. We have a skill guy coming back and we threw him a bone with NTC. I don't know if it is full or limited but don't care. This is all good news. I don't see how you can make this statement. Moulson will be 35 in year 4 of this deal and 36 in year 5. He could easily have fallen completely off the table just in time for the Sabres to have emerged as real Cup contenders -- and a $5MM cap slot at that time will be a precious commodity. If avoiding a future cap hit was a big reason to trade Ehrhoff, we shouldn't pretend it's not an issue here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Your posts are buzzkill and make it obvious you don't like Moulson. Fair enough but please don't tell me this deal will handcuff us anytime down the road. It won't. We have a skill guy coming back and we threw him a bone with NTC. I don't know if it is full or limited but don't care. This is all good news. ahh - sorry to interrupt your happy dance. I like moulson just fine, he's a nice player, but he won't be worth anywhere near 5 mill in 5 years. glad to know you are prescient - despite the fact you don't even know what the deal is, nor do you care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotentPowerPlay22 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 @reporterchris 30s Matt Moulson signs with #sabres, per @FriedgeHNIC. Here is what I like about the deal. He cost money, but no assets were lost. The Sabres got two 2nd round picks for Moulson at the trade deadline. (Cody McCormick for Torrey Mitchell was equal value) The Sabres then give one of those 2nd round picks acquired from Minnesota to Montreal for Josh Gorges. Moulson and Gorges acquired virtually free. (other than salary) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrix31 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Good to have Moulson back. At least we'll get some offense out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I don't see how you can make this statement. Moulson will be 35 in year 4 of this deal and 36 in year 5. He could easily have fallen completely off the table just in time for the Sabres to have emerged as real Cup contenders -- and a $5MM cap slot at that time will be a precious commodity. If avoiding a future cap hit was a big reason to trade Ehrhoff, we shouldn't pretend it's not an issue here. Ehrhoff is exactly the parallel. We were just soundly ridiculed for what might happen in the future - and wrongfully so. I think buying erhoff out was a tough decision but the right one. But now we just stuck our dick back in the same knothole we pulled it out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Murray is awesome... Scotty @ScottySlice 1m "Looking back: the Sabres traded Moulson and McCormick for Mitchell, Gorges, a 2nd-round pick, Moulson and McCormick."@ScarpalTunnel Who was the draft pick in that deal? We technically got Gorges, Mitchell, and WHO...for Moulson and McCormick? Think of it today from the Islanders perspective. The Sabres got Moulson, Gorges, karabacek, Mitchel, and first and second rounders next year. The Islanders got Sebastian Collberg and Josh Ho-Sang Edited July 1, 2014 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Think of it today from the Islanders perspective. The Sabres got Moulson, Gorges, karabacek, and first and second rounders next year. The Islanders got Sebastian Collberg and Josh Ho-Sang ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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