PASabreFan Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) At first I thought we gave up too much, but I just read Darcy also got the Taliban's first round pick in 2015 and second in 2016. Nice. (I guess I should add that, in all seriousness, it's a great day for Bowe and his family. Republicans can crap on it in 3... 2... wait, what's that Jim? They already have? Huh.) Edited May 31, 2014 by PASabreFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 At first I thought we gave up too much, but I just read Darcy also got the Taliban's first round pick in 2015 and second in 2016. Nice. (I guess I should add that, in all seriousness, it's a great day for Bowe and his family. Republicans can crap on it in 3... 2... wait, what's that Jim? They already have? Huh.) Was this one of the conditions in the Miller trade? Do we get the Blues first this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Was this one of the conditions in the Miller trade? Do we get the Blues first this year? It was after the draft (41 years later), so the picks won't change hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 At first I thought we gave up too much, but I just read Darcy also got the Taliban's first round pick in 2015 and second in 2016. Nice. (I guess I should add that, in all seriousness, it's a great day for Bowe and his family. Republicans can crap on it in 3... 2... wait, what's that Jim? They already have? Huh.) No worries as those who were exchanged have a future date with a drone strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 5 for 1? So Garth Snow works for the State Department now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) 5 for 1? So Garth Snow works for the State Department now? And the one doesn't even seem to like the team he's on. Edited June 1, 2014 by weave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 And the one doesn't even seem to like the team he's on. Shades of Homeland. If Bowe runs for Congress, Biden better watch his back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Are we really going to believe the Taliban about Bergdahl's alleged deserting? He may have walked off FOB, but it may have been a stupid wandering off and not deserting. The Taliban was breaking international law, so they would obviously say things to excuse their actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) He was captured by the government we were at war with. Pretty standard POW swap. If the asymmetry of the war on terror means we don't negotiate for our prisoners of war, I suggest we make that more clear when these kids enlist. Particularly by removing all references to "No Man Left Behind" from each service's creed and/or mantras. Edited June 1, 2014 by Glass Case Of Emotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 He was captured by the government we were at war with. Pretty standard POW swap. If the asymmetry of the war on terror means we don't negotiate for our prisoners of war, I suggest we make that more clear when these kids enlist. Particularly by removing all references to "No Man Left Behind" from each service's creed and/or mantras. It is definitely a pretty standard swap. I'm just kidding around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 No worries as those who were exchanged have a future date with a drone strike. Likely. Or tracking chips embedded in them. Or both. And the one doesn't even seem to like the team he's on. It would appear not. He was captured by the government we were at war with. Pretty standard POW swap. If the asymmetry of the war on terror means we don't negotiate for our prisoners of war, I suggest we make that more clear when these kids enlist. Particularly by removing all references to "No Man Left Behind" from each service's creed and/or mantras. Umm..... Nah, not worth it. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 This must be awkward... http://nypost.com/2014/06/01/pows-girlfriend-found-new-love-while-he-was-away/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I think we should have gotten at least a few draft picks out of this. The Taliban are picking pretty high next year too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Are we really going to believe the Taliban about Bergdahl's alleged deserting? He may have walked off FOB, but it may have been a stupid wandering off and not deserting. The Taliban was breaking international law, so they would obviously say things to excuse their actions. He was reported at the time to have emailed his parents saying he was considering desertion. He mailed back boxes containing his uniform and books Pretty damning events just prior to walking away from his post. I am friends with an E-8 in Army intel. Served 3 tours over there. He doesn't know this fellow but told me yesterday that the folks who do know him well in Afcrapistan were looking forward to spitting on his grave. For whatever that is worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Cheap compared to what the Israelis pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Likely. Or tracking chips embedded in them. Or both. I wonder if there's any chance they could have turned these guys as moles. The tracking chip is probably much more likely though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Cheap compared to what the Israelis pay. I don't know if Israelis would pay much for a deserter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Guys from his unit are not saying nice things about him. This whole thing is strange. release 5 taliban for 1 apparent deserter? :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 He was reported at the time to have emailed his parents saying he was considering desertion. He mailed back boxes containing his uniform and books Pretty damning events just prior to walking away from his post. I am friends with an E-8 in Army intel. Served 3 tours over there. He doesn't know this fellow but told me yesterday that the folks who do know him well in Afcrapistan were looking forward to spitting on his grave. For whatever that is worth. Men died looking for him as well. I read an article by someone in his battalion and they seemed angry with how many lives his desertion cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respk Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Pretty standard POW exchange. Just needed to get him back on US soil so he can face desertion charges and a firing squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Pretty standard POW exchange. Just needed to get him back on US soil so he can face desertion charges and a firing squad. I'm not sure how standard it is for 5 high level enemy leaders to be traded for 1 infantry deserter. I guess you can look at it as, there are now no American POWs from that war and there are still ~ 500 of theirs in Guantanamo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottosmagic13 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Something smells fishy...Rover's Morning Glory (morning radio show here in Rochester) had a few people call in, one a fellow soldier that went out on the recovery missions (different unit didn't know Bowe personality) said why in the hell should this deserter see his family again when 6 service men will never be able to see theirs because they had to go out looking for this guy and got killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 This is about to produce some really interesting debate. Bergdahl's father posted somethings about freeing the rest of Gitmo detainees and that God will repay for the blood of Afghan children. Sounds like Bergdahl may have seen some of the nasty ###### that, no doubt, happens with our soldiers overseas. Maybe he wasn't a fan of the murdering and raping of innocent Afghan people and walked away. That doesn't make him a hero, but it doesn't make him a villain, if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 This is about to produce some really interesting debate. Bergdahl's father posted somethings about freeing the rest of Gitmo detainees and that God will repay for the blood of Afghan children. Sounds like Bergdahl may have seen some of the nasty ###### that, no doubt, happens with our soldiers overseas. Maybe he wasn't a fan of the murdering and raping of innocent Afghan people and walked away. That doesn't make him a hero, but it doesn't make him a villain, if true. Or.... Maybe he's Steve Ott, and the trade ends up strengthening where he really belongs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 This is about to produce some really interesting debate. Bergdahl's father posted somethings about freeing the rest of Gitmo detainees and that God will repay for the blood of Afghan children. Sounds like Bergdahl may have seen some of the nasty ###### that, no doubt, happens with our soldiers overseas. Maybe he wasn't a fan of the murdering and raping of innocent Afghan people and walked away. That doesn't make him a hero, but it doesn't make him a villain, if true. I think the quote you are attributing to bob bergdahl is a fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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