... Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Miller had said he didn't want to stay. What would you say if Miller walked for nothing? Who would you blame: TM or PLF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROC Sabres Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) I just watched a couple episodes of Game Of Thrones and logged on to see this sh!t. WTF IS GOING ON HERE! First Niagara Center = PG-13 Game of Thrones Edited March 2, 2014 by ROC Sabres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Not if Pegula told PLF that the hockey department was his baby. If you hire someone to do a job then either you let them do it or you become a meddler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdexchange Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 First Niagara Center = PG-13 Game of Thrones yeah, pretty much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Board is up to 711 users... This story has legs and interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 PFL turned down Pegula's original offer to be GM since he admitted that he wasn't qualified. He then hired a (presumably) qualified GM to preside over personnel moves. Why then should the unqualified guy (PLF) have veto power of personnel moves? He shouldn't. Hire the GM and let him run the team. This looks to be all about PLF not being able to handle differences in opinion over personnel decisions. And, I don't think it was just the Miller trade. I think this also has to do with the future moves that we'll read about shortly. BTW - Craig Patrick (another qualified guy) is sticking around. That speaks volumes. What you say makes sense to me. If this is all about the Miller trade and PLF wanting to keep him, PLF is just plain wrong. There is no way we could take chance that we get nothing for him or Ott (as much as I would have liked to keep both). Miller tipped off his intentions when he sold his Buffalo home last year. If either Miller or Ott want to return, there is nothing stopping them from signing with Sabres in July. Unfortunately, the best option we had now was to get something for both of these guys now. PLF should have realized this. Moreover, PLF was the guy who chose TM over every other guy he interviewed. At least, he lasted longer than the 40 days with the Islanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdexchange Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Retweeted by Paul Hamilton John Wawrow @john_wawrow 13m Would resist putting full blame on #Sabres on LaFontaine resignation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 PFL turned down Pegula's original offer to be GM since he admitted that he wasn't qualified. He then hired a (presumably) qualified GM to preside over personnel moves. Why then should the unqualified guy (PLF) have veto power of personnel moves? He shouldn't. Hire the GM and let him run the team. This looks to be all about PLF not being able to handle differences in opinion over personnel decisions. And, I don't think it was just the Miller trade. I think this also has to do with the future moves that we'll read about shortly. BTW - Craig Patrick (another qualified guy) is sticking around. That speaks volumes. Yeah pretty much my thought...if you wanted to be involved in personnel decisions then he should have been the GM. His role was to build the hockey department, set the outline for what they wanted to do, which was rebuild, and let his people do their job then give input at the end of the year or as needed regarding what they were doing....not immediately meddle with the guy you just hired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Ted Nolan has been offered a three-year contract extension, according to Paul Hamilton of WGR Sports Radio 550. Nolan was hired by the Pat LaFontaine, who just resigned from his post as the president of hockey operations, in mid-November and has been operating under the interim tag. The Sabres have gone 14-19-7 under Nolan and have definitely shown a nice improvement with him behind the bench. Mar. 1 - 7:39 pm et Source: Paul Hamilton on Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wow you guys make a lot out of nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Interesting to see the crowd turn on PLF. A few months ago folks were acting like he was a savior. Now, he's a meddler and good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 My take after all that has transpired, all that we heard, know, and all of the rumors is this: If PLF was the stand-up guy he portrays himself to be and comes across as, this wouldn't have happened today. Even if it was all about the Miller and Nolan circumstances, and I have very good reason to believe that had little to do with it. If that were the case, he would have resigned after the deadline and crafted the story differently and more positively for all parties. IF, however, PLF was the meddler or micromanager, and got in a power struggle with Murray or Pegula, things like today happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 That our new GM Dwight Schrute seems cold and ruthless I actually see as a good thing. As long as he shows a true eye for talent then that is what matters most. Bill Polian was a bit of an SOB but he sure was good at putting a winning team together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Interesting to see the crowd turn on PLF. A few months ago folks were acting like he was a savior. Now, he's a meddler and good riddance. He didn't pull this 3 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wow you guys make a lot out of nothing. What do you know? If you know something that puts it into perspective, better to put it out there rather than a drive-by mild insult. All of Sabre Nation that has online access seems to think this is "something", if message boards, Facebook, and Twitter are any indication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wow. I want to know why before I pass judgement. You won't last long here with that attitude. Just kidding. Maybe after seeing TM put together a pretty decent trade, PLF realized that he wasn't needed and decided to get back to his old job that he did nothing at as well. Patty thanks Terry Pegula and Fans but not his colleagues as he leaves. I think Tim Murray just survived his first pissing contest with the guy that hired him. I'm smiling because I think Murray's our guy. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Interesting to see the crowd turn on PLF. A few months ago folks were acting like he was a savior. Now, he's a meddler and good riddance. In this kind of bar fight, and that's really what it is, there is almost always one guy who is the bad guy. It doesn't really matter who wins or walks away or acts tougher. There is almost always one guy who was the main reason the dumb war broke out and got out of hand in the first place. It could be Murray, it could be PLF, it could be Pegula. Fans and posters are going to have an opinion about which one was the bad guy in this particular donnybrook. To me, it's easiest to see PLF as that guy, followed by Pegula (which if it were him, he is choosing Murray over Pat), and then Murray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Interesting to see the crowd turn on PLF. A few months ago folks were acting like he was a savior. Now, he's a meddler and good riddance. To be clear, I said Pegula was an "unrepentant meddler", not PLF. I'm also defending PLF's position that, if he were told the hockey department was his to run, Pegula shouldn't be over-ruling PLF's decisions (whether I agree with the decision or not). Edited March 2, 2014 by sizzlemeister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 The strong survive. Unfortunately Pat can't be counted among that group. Sorry to see him go but we move forward without him. Bring on the teardown and lets build this biatch right. Get er done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 What do you know? If you know something that puts it into perspective, better to put it out there rather than a drive-by mild insult. All of Sabre Nation that has online access seems to think this is "something", if message boards, Facebook, and Twitter are any indication. agreed. The fanbase is very sensitive right now, you have to remember we're in the middle of a giant tank.to have Pat LaFontaine come in as our Savior, and then all the sudden get shitcanned (yes, getting politely asked for a resignation is almost the same thing, I am confident that is what happened) out of nowhere after one of the biggest trades in sabres history is definitely going to stir things up a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 To be clear, I said Pegula was an "unrepentant meddler", not PLF. I'm also defending PLF's position that, if he were told the hockey department was his to run, Pegula shouldn't be over-ruling PLF's decisions (whether I agree with the decision or not). I wasn't quoting or referencing you. At least not consciously. But the board has gone from oh god please don't let it be PLF to he wasn't much needed, buh-bye in five short hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Interesting to see the crowd turn on PLF. A few months ago folks were acting like he was a savior. Now, he's a meddler and good riddance. He's expendable, we are all expendable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 What do you know? If you know something that puts it into perspective, better to put it out there rather than a drive-by mild insult. All of Sabre Nation that has online access seems to think this is "something", if message boards, Facebook, and Twitter are any indication. No insult. Just pointing out the obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastajoe Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 So you're 3rd line material for the Sabres? 3rd line D. I actually do still play on a no checking team, so I'd be a good fit. I play Sunday mornings at 6:30am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 My main worry still is connected to the fact that TP wanted PLF to be GM when Pat had absolutely no clue how to play that role. If that does not scream Marv Levy as GM, I don't know what does. Without knowing any of the facts, I just have a feeling that Pegula is going to look like an amateur when it's all said and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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