deluca67 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Stafford isn't due for another good season until 2014-15, that is when he'll be in another contract year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Not one GM in the league would have done that. Peter Chiarelli might have, but point taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 He was absolutely terrible last year, but even his biggest haters have to admit he is a better player than that. Wouldn't be shocked if he bounces back with 20 to 25 goals next year. And my left-field prediction: he develops some chemistry and (cue the choking noises) a mentorship role with Grigorenko. Stafford isn't due for another good season until 2014-15, that is when he'll be in another contract year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kruse Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Not one GM in the league would have done that. Bull. Plenty of guys have been traded outta the blue. You now what i don't get? How come stafford (6'2 225) doesn't throw his weight around? I mean not just with hitting, but he's not very bruiser like either. Same with Vanek. If you got size, use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Bull. Plenty of guys have been traded outta the blue. You now what i don't get? How come stafford (6'2 225) doesn't throw his weight around? I mean not just with hitting, but he's not very bruiser like either. Same with Vanek. If you got size, use it. I was reading the great book about roller hockey "Wheelers, Dealers, Pucks and Bucks." They were writing about the 1994 champion Buffalo Stampede and their character. They said that the Stampede wasn't built on finesse and great goaltending but on brawn and bad behavior. Over the years I think Darcy has got these types of flawed skill players like Stafford who stay on the perimeter and don't like to mix it up. Darcy doesn't get it...he is an elitist. I don't think after 17 years he understands that blue collar character that Buffalo fans can get behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 The most frustrating thing about Stafford is that when he does decide to put his nose to the grindstone, he's a fricken bull on the ice. Speed, power, strong on his skates, determined, etc. Heck, he even answered the bell in defense of Drury when he engaged Neal. But that's the problem, it's his choice to not engage as well. That's unforgiveable in my book. And I'm not sure if it's simply a question of maturity at this point. It's just his nature. Much harder to change that than anything. GO SABRES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 The most frustrating thing about Stafford is that when he does decide to put his nose to the grindstone, he's a fricken bull on the ice. Speed, power, strong on his skates, determined, etc. Heck, he even answered the bell in defense of Drury when he engaged Neal. But that's the problem, it's his choice to not engage as well. That's unforgiveable in my book. And I'm not sure if it's simply a question of maturity at this point. It's just his nature. Much harder to change that than anything. GO SABRES!!! Lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Lazy. I thought that post by K-9 had some effort in it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 I was reading the great book about roller hockey "Wheelers, Dealers, Pucks and Bucks." They were writing about the 1994 champion Buffalo Stampede and their character. They said that the Stampede wasn't built on finesse and great goaltending but on brawn and bad behavior. Over the years I think Darcy has got these types of flawed skill players like Stafford who stay on the perimeter and don't like to mix it up. Darcy doesn't get it...he is an elitist. I don't think after 17 years he understands that blue collar character that Buffalo fans can get behind. I felt that the 1999 Cup Finals team was a blue collar team. Darcy was there. He saw what they were capable of, and how much the area got behind that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kruse Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 I felt that the 1999 Cup Finals team was a blue collar team. Darcy was there. He saw what they were capable of, and how much the area got behind that team. Good point. I like Darcy Regier, honestly. The man can draft and we are always in contention. He knows how to trade, too. My problem was with Ruff. So glad he's gone. Ihave faith in Rolston. In his little stint last year, you can tell the difference. And i like how hes not afraid to overturn the whole lineup. Let's give Rolston a chance. He should hire his brother as an assistant. Loved him as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Lazy. Stafford or my post? I thought that post by K-9 had some effort in it. :) And then I read this. Great minds, nobody. Great minds. GO SABRES!!! Good point. I like Darcy Regier, honestly. The man can draft and we are always in contention. He knows how to trade, too. My problem was with Ruff. So glad he's gone. Ihave faith in Rolston. In his little stint last year, you can tell the difference. And i like how hes not afraid to overturn the whole lineup. Let's give Rolston a chance. He should hire his brother as an assistant. Loved him as a player. There's contention for the cup and then there's contention to make the playoffs. And while getting into the tournament means anything can happen, odds are it's gonna be one of those "cup" contending teams that gets there. DR, whom I don't detest like others here, just hasn't been able to assemble AND KEEP, a cup contending team, regardless of his prowess as a drafter and trader. If Lindy really was the problem, we'll find out soon enough. But in my book, Lindy did more with less than anything else. GO SABRES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) You now what i don't get? How come stafford (6'2 225) doesn't throw his weight around? I mean not just with hitting, but he's not very bruiser like either. Same with Vanek. If you got size, use it. He's not 6'2" 225 lbs Vanek is a soft Euro, just like all your ###### buds Pommer and Roy Edited July 21, 2013 by inkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I felt that the 1999 Cup Finals team was a blue collar team. Darcy was there. He saw what they were capable of, and how much the area got behind that team. that was 14 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 that was 14 years ago. Right. And you said: "I don't think after 17 years he understands that blue collar character that Buffalo fans can get behind." So, what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kruse Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 He's not 6'2" 225 lbs Vanek is a soft Euro, just like all your ###### buds Pommer and Roy The're both 6'2. Vanek is like 205, if stafford aint 225, hes at least 215. They your butt buddies you got nicknames for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 The're both 6'2. Vanek is like 205, if stafford aint 225, hes at least 215. They your butt buddies you got nicknames for them. Staff weighs less than TVParty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 The're both 6'2. Vanek is like 205, if stafford aint 225, hes at least 215. They your butt buddies you got nicknames for them. You're awfully obsessed with homosexuality. Are you sure you have the right forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think stafford is going to have a bounceback year and I hope he plays out his contract with us, and then we get him on a more reasonable contract next time around :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) The're both 6'2. Vanek is like 205, if stafford aint 225, hes at least 215. They your butt buddies you got nicknames for them. You're awfully obsessed with homosexuality. Are you sure you have the right forum? I think I know where he's been looking for http://www.englishcl...forum.php?f=199 or there's the more simple route http://www.ebay.com/bhp/texas-instruments-speak-and-spell Edited July 22, 2013 by WildCard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kruse Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 You're awfully obsessed with homosexuality. Are you sure you have the right forum? Speaking of gay, why you followin me around? You got a crush little man? Staff weighs less than TVParty. Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think I know where he's been looking for http://www.englishcl...forum.php?f=199 or there's the more simple route http://www.ebay.com/...speak-and-spell :lol: @ Speak & Spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Right. And you said: "I don't think after 17 years he understands that blue collar character that Buffalo fans can get behind." So, what is your point? The point is, 14 years ago is ancient history and 1999's blue collar team was mainly built by Muckler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I felt that the 1999 Cup Finals team was a blue collar team. Darcy was there. He saw what they were capable of, and how much the area got behind that team. 1999 Cup Finals team begins and ends with Hasek. Without Hasek that team is drafting #1 overall every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) Hey we could try and get Gagner from Edmonton, they'd be desperate if they can't get him to a contract. Nevermind, his stats are atrocious and he makes Stafford look good in that regard. Edited July 22, 2013 by thewookie1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Not only wouldn't I be shocked, but I expect it. He's not going to shoot 5% again. Yup. He should be right around .12 for his shooting percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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