GDT: Flames @ Sabres, 7:30pm Nov. 19, 2025, 🎙 📺 ESPN+/MSG

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

Ellis in net 

I was expecting UPL to help get Lyon more rest.  

Hmmm.   Lindy likes to ride the hot goalie.  

Edited 3 hours ago by Pimlach

[Doohickie]

8 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

2-4 points out? Nah.

They are literally 4 points out of a playoff spot right now.  If they win tonight they will be no more than 4 points out of a playoff spot.  If all the other teams lose, they could be as few as 2 points (although might not be possible if some of the teams ahead of us play each other tonight.

But yeah.  If they win tonight, they stay no more than 4 points behind a playoff spot.

[Bangarang]

7 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I was expecting UPL to Lyon more rest.  

Hmmm.   Lindy likes to ride the hot goalie.  

UPL should never start again for this team. 

[Pimlach]

46 minutes ago, sabremike said:

7:30 local start times (ESPECIALLY ON WEEKDAYS) should be outlawed by the Geneva Convention.

Depends entirely on your perspective.

Back in the early 1970's the home weekday games started at 8:05 and the Sunday games were 7:05. 

The 8:05 start gave me plenty of time and motivation to get my homework done, and the better the grades the more games I got to attend.  

 

[sabrefanday1]

Funny I juat looked at the standings and I thought Boston and Ottawa were playing so good yet we are not far behond and have games in hand on everybody. Just hope that the team we saw against the Oilers and not the team that showed up againwt St. Louis (trying to forget that game).  

[Big Guava]

18 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I was expecting UPL to help get Lyon more rest.  

Hmmm.   Lindy likes to ride the hot goalie.  

UPL should not see the inside of a crease again unless one of the other two are injured 

9 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Depends entirely on your perspective.

Back in the early 1970's the home weekday games started at 8:05 and the Sunday games were 7:05. 

The 8:05 start gave me plenty of time and motivation to get my homework done, and the better the grades the more games I got to attend.  

 

Nowadays it doesn't matter cause they can just turn in homework whenever and get full credit usually.

[LGR4GM]

Colten Ellis: 4gp, .914sv%

Alex Lyon: 12gp, .907sv%

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen: 4gp, .883sv%

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, OverPowerYou said:

I already know the outcome. The Sabres never win 3 in a row. 

Put money on it. Lemons into lemonade.

9 minutes ago, sabrefanday1 said:

Funny I juat looked at the standings and I thought Boston and Ottawa were playing so good yet we are not far behond and have games in hand on everybody. Just hope that the team we saw against the Oilers and not the team that showed up againwt St. Louis (trying to forget that game).  

Perception vs reality.

[Bangarang]

21 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Colten Ellis: 4gp, .914sv%

Alex Lyon: 12gp, .907sv%

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen: 4gp, .883sv%

One of these is not like the others

[sabresouth]

I hope this is a good sign that upl is done here. If you were going to play him, I would think it would be this game.

[_Q_]

1 hour ago, Doohickie said:

They are literally 4 points out of a playoff spot right now.  If they win tonight they will be no more than 4 points out of a playoff spot.  If all the other teams lose, they could be as few as 2 points (although might not be possible if some of the teams ahead of us play each other tonight.

But yeah.  If they win tonight, they stay no more than 4 points behind a playoff spot.

I swear that the NHL points system was designed by the global elites to cause strife and division between those of the metric/imperial measurement systems grappling with new vs old math.

[Archie Lee]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Colten Ellis: 4gp, .914sv%

Alex Lyon: 12gp, .907sv%

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen: 4gp, .883sv%

Ellis has definitely earned the starter's net to see if he can run with it.  Lyon's great start to the year should not be overlooked. UPL has not been consistent.

But, since the ot loss in Toronto:

Ellis: 3 GP, .907sv%, -1.03 GSAx

Lyon: 5 GP, .878sv%, -2.38 GSAx

UPL: 3 GP, .900sv%, -0.48 GSAx

 

[Thorny]

Won’t watch. Fire Adams. Go Sabres.

[Doohickie]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Colten Ellis: 4gp, .914sv%

Alex Lyon: 12gp, .907sv%

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen: 4gp, .883sv%

[matter2003]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

One of these is not like the others

UPL also the only one with a negative XGA, as per usual.

[LGR4GM]

7 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

UPL also the only one with a negative XGA, as per usual.

Ellis is at 0.452gsax/60

Lyon is at 0.217gsax/60

UPL is at -0.503gsax/60

[That Aud Smell]

3 hours ago, Brawndo said:

Ellis in net 

Lindy gonna Lindy.

1 hour ago, _Q_ said:

I swear that the NHL points system was designed by the global elites to cause strife and division between those of the metric/imperial measurement systems grappling with new vs old math.

Created by Bettman, but yeah - same difference.

[Doohickie]

1 hour ago, _Q_ said:

I swear that the NHL points system was designed by the global elites to cause strife and division between those of the metric/imperial measurement systems grappling with new vs old math.

Not bad.  But you forgot to toss in Daylight Savings Time.

[That Aud Smell]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Ellis is at 0.452gsax/60

Lyon is at 0.217gsax/60

UPL is at -0.503gsax/60

where do you get these #'s?

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

where do you get these #'s?

https://moneypuck.com/goalies.htm

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

I was expecting UPL to help get Lyon more rest.  

Hmmm.   Lindy likes to ride the hot goalie.  

He certainly does doesn't he? I don't really like it. I think it risks an injury or burn out on any goalie. Very few teams nowadays run one goalie multiple games in a row like that. I also think it doesn't do right by the goalies in question. There's too many goalies. Time to s@@t or get off the pot. Stop procrastinating cause you don't know what to do Kevyn. They don't fix this Levi will want out for sure. UPL obviously will be unhappy and Lyon might start to get unhappy too. 

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Colten Ellis: 4gp, .914sv%

Alex Lyon: 12gp, .907sv%

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen: 4gp, .883sv%

Yes, that tracks. UPL also has a habit of letting in soft ones at inopportune times. game killers. He's unreliable. 

It should be Ellis-Lyon 60-40 split in games with Levi pushing for a real shot next year and then Georgiev as an injury insurance policy for the season at best. That's it. It's not that complicated. Adams is the only GM in the league that can turn a waiver gift like Ellis into a complicated mess and controversy where nobody will be happy. 

I would have started Lyon tonight and then back to Ellis on Friday. 

Calgary is a dumpster fire but watch out for the Johnny Beecher hat trick 🙂

 

[elijah]

3 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

2-4 points out? Nah. Tonight gets them to a point a game pace. Not nearly enough. But, yes, they will have weathered two storms. The optimism at roughly the quarter pole is they have a chance. After two 10 pt. segments, they need a 14 or a 16.

If you win tonight you’re sitting at 20 points while the 8th seed is at 22 points, that would be 2 points out. The only other team that plays tonight in the wild card race is Washington, with a win they would go to 22 points, so again with a win tonight you’d only be 2 points behind them. 

The only team within the wild card race that could get further than 4 points ahead of us via games in hand would be the Flyers, if they won both games in hand, they’d be sitting at 25 points. In that scenario, NYI (with no games in hand) drops from WC1 to WC2 with 24 points, again leaving you 4 points out. 

So, yes. A win tonight leaves you 2-4 points out. 

I understand the pessimism on the board around the team with a massive playoff drought, but the mental gymnastics between DeLuca .500, point%, ‘point paces’ and etc just to make it seem further away and less possible than it actually is, it gets tiring and redundant.

No matter what way you paint it, with a win tonight, you will wake up tomorrow between 2-4 points out, and with no one with enough games in hand to push you any further back than that. 

 

[Night Train]

Just win.

I don't want to hear about playoff standings in freakin' November . 

Edited 28 minutes ago by Night Train

[Taro T]

40 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

He certainly does doesn't he? I don't really like it. I think it risks an injury or burn out on any goalie. Very few teams nowadays run one goalie multiple games in a row like that. I also think it doesn't do right by the goalies in question. There's too many goalies. Time to s@@t or get off the pot. Stop procrastinating cause you don't know what to do Kevyn. They don't fix this Levi will want out for sure. UPL obviously will be unhappy and Lyon might start to get unhappy too. 

Yes, that tracks. UPL also has a habit of letting in soft ones at inopportune times. game killers. He's unreliable. 

It should be Ellis-Lyon 60-40 split in games with Levi pushing for a real shot next year and then Georgiev as an injury insurance policy for the season at best. That's it. It's not that complicated. Adams is the only GM in the league that can turn a waiver gift like Ellis into a complicated mess and controversy where nobody will be happy. 

I would have started Lyon tonight and then back to Ellis on Friday. 

Calgary is a dumpster fire but watch out for the Johnny Beecher hat trick 🙂

 

Personally expected Lyon tonight with Ellis Friday and Lyon on Saturday unless he'd screwed the pooch tonight.

BUT by going with Ellis tonight, he can come back with Lyon on Friday for the out of conference game and then back to Ellis on Saturday for the in-conference game.

They also have 2 days off before the next set of 3 games, so they can run Ellis-Lyon-Ellis once again.

 

So, there is a logic to it, especially if they believe Ellis is playing the best of the 3 right now.

[PASabreFan]

3 minutes ago, Night Train said:

Just win.

I don't want to hear about playoff standings in freakin' November . 

Yep. There is no playoff spot in November. This happens every year about this time. But it probably makes sense. Two to four points out after 20 games extrapolates to 8 to 16 out at season's end. This is not "we're right there."