GDT: Sabres @ Hurricanes, 7:00pm Nov. 8, 2025, 🎙 📺 ESPN+/MSG

[LGR4GM]

I just feel sad and hopeless. 

[ska-T Palmtown]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

I just feel sad and hopeless. 

Bro. Same.

[HumanSlinky39]

11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I just feel sad and hopeless. 

Yeah, same. Also...helpless. Hockey is my favorite sport. I so badly want a good team to root for. Every year I get this lump of coal and there's no end in sight. I repeat myself constantly with this but this isn't a serious hockey organization and I honestly don't know when they'll ever be good again.

Edited 12 hours ago by HumanSlinky39

[gilbert11]

1 hour ago, Nitro60 said:

Lindy insists on the empty net when the teams record in the past few years is miserable in giving up goals.  

Without looking at other box scores for today, these 2 ENG would put them in a tie with Minnesota with 6.

I think the San Jose Sharks are lifting themselves from the quagmire and will make the playoffs again before the Sabres.  I should probably go back to rooting for them.  Cellebrini is at another level.

[SwampD]

11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I just feel sad and hopeless. 

This sucks.

I really feel like the only solution is for TP to sell the team, and I don’t see that happening.

[Taro T]

4 hours ago, Brawndo said:

My favorite thing about Doug Allen is he sings the damn anthems and doesn’t attempt to put his own flare on it 

He does put his own flare on it.   He highlights the word "the" in the phrase "o'er the land of THE free."  But will take that over making the song last an extra 2 minutes as the anthem singer decides people really came to see a 2 song concert rather than a hockey game.

It's such a small thing to make THAT his own take on the anthem.  Miss it.

[PASabreFan]

15 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I just feel sad and hopeless. 

It's bad. There's no sugar coating it. But when Sabres hockey is back, you'll be glad you were here to write that post. I slowly quit on the Bills between 2007 and 2012 ish. I regret that now. There is no putting that Humpty Dumpty back together again. When it's gone, it's gone. Just survive and keep hoping.

[Doohickie]

  

On 11/6/2025 at 9:03 PM, Doohickie said:

I accepted an invite to a "friendsgiving" dinner Saturday; the only downside was that I would miss the Sabres game.

 

It is no longer a downside.

I just got home and checked the score.  Oof.

I'm pretty sure I had much more fun at the Friendsgiving, complete with mariachi band.

 

 

[JP51]

I mean look do the same thing get the same result. The team sucks the FO sucks the owner sucks and the future sucks.... wait till the only people with talent in the team start to force their way out then you will really know what sucks it. Unless TP sells the team the Webster dictionary with not even have a definition next to the word suck just a team picture of the Butterknives .

[JP51]

1 hour ago, pi2000 said:

Low hockey IQ owner, low hockey IQ GM, low hockey IQ players.... it's a systemic issue.

Watching them play can be infuriating, simply due to their collective stupidity.  

And unfortunately you can't cure stupid.

You are not being fair to the word low... epically incompetent is better 

[Taro T]

Know that analytics says pull the goalie early.  But, THIS team is NOT going to keep the puck in the other team's end for 3 minutes straight.  They occassionally can do it for a minute, minute & a half.

So, how about we account for the players we actually have and pull the goalie at the 1st chance AFTER there's only 100 seconds left in the 3rd when you're only down by 1 goal.  Get it that if they're down by 2 they'll need to pull the goalie sooner and hope; but please DON'T continue to pull him so early when you're only down by 1.

[Dr. Who]

6 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Know that analytics says pull the goalie early.  But, THIS team is NOT going to keep the puck in the other team's end for 3 minutes straight.  They occassionally can do it for a minute, minute & a half.

So, how about we account for the players we actually have and pull the goalie at the 1st chance AFTER there's only 100 seconds left in the 3rd when you're only down by 1 goal.  Get it that if they're down by 2 they'll need to pull the goalie sooner and hope; but please DON'T continue to pull him so early when you're only down by 1.

From the players to the coaching to the GM to the dim owner, count on lack of rational response to any concrete situation. Prudence is a virtue that has learned wisdom to the point that there is a natural "feel" for the proper response to the particulars of a situation. You'd think there'd be some of that with Ruff, but the pervasive fog of imbecility seems nearly invincible. 

[PerreaultForever]

Well you have to like the comeback attempt but you can see at the end they look dead inside again. They know it and we know it, you aren't going anywhere losing all these games, even if they are close.

I'd really really really like to see Adams fired now. Make Jarmo GM if that's the plan but do it now. Let the new guy start planning for the deadline, potential tear downs and future draft. If they do the usual and hire in the off season they'll lose more years in the adjustment period. 

Come on Terry. You can shake up whole neighborhoods with that frakking. Shake up this hockey team. 

27 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Know that analytics says pull the goalie early.  But, THIS team is NOT going to keep the puck in the other team's end for 3 minutes straight.  They occassionally can do it for a minute, minute & a half.

So, how about we account for the players we actually have and pull the goalie at the 1st chance AFTER there's only 100 seconds left in the 3rd when you're only down by 1 goal.  Get it that if they're down by 2 they'll need to pull the goalie sooner and hope; but please DON'T continue to pull him so early when you're only down by 1.

It depends. You have to time it out with the face off and which top guys are rested and ready to go. The thinking isn't we will be attacking for 3 minutes. It's just now's a good time for the line match ups we want. or at least it should be. 

[Second Line Center]

Haven’t won in regulation since Greenway got back - but hey he was fairly physical in that one game.  
 

No coincidence at all.  I’m so sick of seeing this guy play hockey.  
 

15 plus minutes of ice time a game.  Zero offense.  Inconsistent physicality which he clearly does not enjoy.  
 

1 point in 4 games.  1-3 with him the win being the SO against Washington. 

[Stads]

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

I just feel sad and hopeless. 

Call 988

[SABRES 0311]

Upgrades needed: Quinn, Greenway, Power, UPL

Replaced by similar player(s): Kulich, Levi

Keep but accept: Norris has an unreliable presence, Benson isn’t a first liner on many teams, McLeod is a 3C on most teams, Krebs is a 4C on every team nothing more. Accepting this is important to fixing because you can’t target what you need if you don’t know what you actually need.

TBD - TBD - Thompson

Benson - Norris - Tuch

Zucker - McLeod - Rosen

Dunne - Krebs/Kozak - Malenstyn 

Dahlin Muel

Kesselring Byram

Timmins TBD

Lyon

TBD

All TBDs need to be veteran, established players. Maybe Johnson with Timmins.

I have a hard time believing Power + Kulich can’t land a legit 1LW or add a draft pick to it for a 1C.

Quinn + Greenway has to get you a power forward that doesn’t have stone hands and an injury liability.

UPL one for one on a backup possibility.

As far as prospects go, what use is learning to win in the AHL if they’re going to learn to lose in the NHL. Not everyone is a future Sabre. Some are just currency so spend it.

Edited 9 hours ago by SABRES 0311

[Sidc3000]

6 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

It's bad. There's no sugar coating it. But when Sabres hockey is back, you'll be glad you were here to write that post. I slowly quit on the Bills between 2007 and 2012 ish. I regret that now. There is no putting that Humpty Dumpty back together again. When it's gone, it's gone. Just survive and keep hoping.

There is no hope at this point. Pegula hasn’t tried to make the Sabres good since before the Bills got good. Matter of fact he did everything humanly possible to make them worse by cutting cost down to bare bones.

 When the owner shows he gives a *****, then I’ll have hope. The Sabres were a means to an end and the Bills were the end. 
 

There is no savior like Josh Allen coming to the Sabres. They actually had their Josh Allen with Eichel/Reinhart and they pissed them away because the Bills were more important. 
 

The Sabres are what they are and nothing is going to change that, at least in my lifetime. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Sidc3000

[Kristian]

Eliminated in November again.

[BlowLeafsBlow123]

Anyone that wants to move Power before Byram should look at last night's analytics. Also, check out when Dahlin was out last year and how this guy performed. He's terrible without him while Power is above water. These two players are not in the same tier so maybe look there first.

[Sidc3000]

8 minutes ago, BlowLeafsBlow123 said:

Anyone that wants to move Power before Byram should look at last night's analytics. Also, check out when Dahlin was out last year and how this guy performed. He's terrible without him while Power is above water. These two players are not in the same tier so maybe look there first.

Get rid of them both, they both suck.  It’s not like Adams is going to get anything worth a damn for either. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Sidc3000

[sabresouth]

Not dumping on Lyon because of this game specifically. But Lyon is not the answer. He's better than what we've had, if he can maintain this level. We've been so used to sorry goaltending that he looks good. He's just another filler.

I understand putting Tuch and Thompson on different lines but they play much better together than apart. We want them to produce more. Keeping them together gets you that.

[OverPowerYou]

Here comes our annual 12 game losing streak 

[Believer]

6 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Upgrades needed: Quinn, Greenway, Power, UPL

Replaced by similar player(s): Kulich, Levi

Keep but accept: Norris has an unreliable presence, Benson isn’t a first liner on many teams, McLeod is a 3C on most teams, Krebs is a 4C on every team nothing more. Accepting this is important to fixing because you can’t target what you need if you don’t know what you actually need.

TBD - TBD - Thompson

Benson - Norris - Tuch

Zucker - McLeod - Rosen

Dunne - Krebs/Kozak - Malenstyn 

Dahlin Muel

Kesselring Byram

Timmins TBD

Lyon

TBD

All TBDs need to be veteran, established players. Maybe Johnson with Timmins.

I have a hard time believing Power + Kulich can’t land a legit 1LW or add a draft pick to it for a 1C.

Quinn + Greenway has to get you a power forward that doesn’t have stone hands and an injury liability.

UPL one for one on a backup possibility.

As far as prospects go, what use is learning to win in the AHL if they’re going to learn to lose in the NHL. Not everyone is a future Sabre. Some are just currency so spend it.

Sabres failed to get even 1 Star last two games. 

Just tells me our best players failed to have any impact. 

Dahlin is LOA. Norris is a bust. 

Think both Thompson and Tuch are on the brink of Sabres burnout and will want a change of scenery if we fail to make postseason play again.

Front Office needs to fill out a top line as you suggest and do it soon.

Otherwise a full tear down and multi year rebuild is in store, imo.

 

 

[JohnC]

20 hours ago, K-9 said:

The answer is in the room, gentlemen. In. The. Room.

The bathroom? Some flushing needs to be going on to an expel the crap, starting with the howdy doody GM. 
 

In any business, institution or sports franchise at any level when there is systemic failure outside analysts are brought in to do a thorough review and then recommend a change of course. 
 

The problem here is that the Sabres are owned by a stubborn and obtuse owner whose strategy during his tenure is to double down on the same failed course. It’s beyond beyond being stupid!
 

 

[JohnC]

I watched a little more than two periods. You don’t have to have much hockey knowledge to recognize which team was out- classing the other team throughout the game, regardless what the score was.

The Sabres have an  unserious owner presiding over a third- rate franchise. It’s sad and maddening.