Is Adams done with his "overhaul" of the Sabres 25-26 roster?

[Dr. Who]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

The idea of the gif was to say his value is not much, not trade him for money.   

Metaphor requires a certain distance from literalism. Ah, well. I think your intent was clear enough.

[DarthEbriate]

15 hours ago, Thorny said:

Wasn’t he lined up at 1C at time last year? I really tuned out towards the end

Once Norris was hurt, Kulich was the 1C for the remainder of the season.

[ponokasabre]

I also think the new directive of “we need to be tougher to play against” hasn’t fully been accomplished yet

yes Kesserling, Doan, Danforth , and Timmins all play the right and will be extremely harder to play against, but we still are missing that truly mean element 

they have added it to the Amerks in spades but haven’t really done it yet for the Sabres 

I wonder about a guy like Brendan Smith, has played for Lindy in the past

But truly add like a player like Neighbors would just complete the offseason from not only a good addition but accomplishing there goal. I don’t think Neighbors is available but someone like him. McTavish maybe, and other than that I don’t know who would be available? Any one older who plays that kinda game tends to have a no move, like a Kadri

So I’d be interested to see if anyone knows any additional names that maybe could be of interest?

 

[7+6=13]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

The idea of the gif was to say his value is not much, not trade him for money.   

I think you're getting confused.  This wasn't a response to the gif, it was to your humorless post @7+6=13.

 

[dudacek]

1 hour ago, DarthEbriate said:

Once Norris was hurt, Kulich was the 1C for the remainder of the season.

Kulich centred Thompson, but he wasn’t the 1C - McLeod was getting nearly 4 more minutes of ice time a game.

That was kinda my point earlier, as poorly expressed as it was. With Norris out, Kulich was getting 15:40 a night down the stretch compared to 19 for McLeod and 15 for Krebs.

Kozak and Östlund split the 4c role and each got 10.

Even if Kulich Thompson Benson remains a line, Kulich is not going to be the 1C

[dudacek]

That stretch run was also very interesting in terms of what McLeod did with that ice time and the argument he’s not good enough to be a 2C

Dude put up 22 points in his final 22 games and just one of those was on the PP and he wasn’t playing with Tage

He was also a +4 but his Corsi dropped to 46.9%

[dudacek]

Another interesting snippet from that stretch run was Byram.

He got 9 assists and was +6 with a 47.5% in 21 1/2 minutes

I point this out because this was a time where Byram was not usually playing with Dahlin. His normal partner was Clifton, who had a Corsi of 42.8%
 

[Taro T]

7 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Another interesting snippet from that stretch run was Byram.

He got 9 assists and was +6 with a 47.5% in 21 1/2 minutes

I point this out because this was a time where Byram was not usually playing with Dahlin. His normal partner was Clifton, who had a Corsi of 42.8%
 

It'll be real interesting to see how Ruff deploys the D.  Could see Dahlin starting a game paired with any of them except Power or Samuelsson.  And could see Power with any but Dahlin or Byram.  (And, yes, realize that Ruff ran Samuelsson Dahlin at the end and a fair amount of Power Byram early; but just personally don't like those pairings.  So, maybe who those 2 won't play with is more hoping than expecting?)

And, yes, if putting money down, would expect Dahlin and Byram to be a thing again.

[dudacek]

Samuelsson predominately got the Dahlin pairing but still only had a 45.8% Corsi.

But he was +3 in 20:31

[dudacek]

Other than the usual possession studs Dahlin and Benson, the Sabres in general  had Corsi under 50% down the stretch. Even Tuch was at just 46.5%
 

The exceptions were the Rochester trio of Rosen, Östlund each over 55 and Kulich over 53

I got the impression the organization was using the stretch to try some things out. Wonder what conclusions they drew?

[PromoTheRobot]

I'm going to predict there will be a hockey trade before camp. We are going to move a current Sabres forward for another forward.

[SabreFinn]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

Other than the usual possession studs Dahlin and Benson, the Sabres in general  had Corsi under 50% down the stretch. Even Tuch was at just 46.5%
 

The exceptions were the Rochester trio of Rosen, Östlund each over 55 and Kulich over 53

I got the impression the organization was using the stretch to try some things out. Wonder what conclusions they drew?

Östlund, Rosen and Kulich's Corsi is interesting, any theory why they are that high?

[Taro T]

53 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Other than the usual possession studs Dahlin and Benson, the Sabres in general  had Corsi under 50% down the stretch. Even Tuch was at just 46.5%
 

The exceptions were the Rochester trio of Rosen, Östlund each over 55 and Kulich over 53

I got the impression the organization was using the stretch to try some things out. Wonder what conclusions they drew?

They definitely were.  Giving Dahlin, Power, and Byram their own pairing while having Thompson on the W with 2 kids, upping McLeod's ice time (pretty sure a fair amount of that was out of necessity but also to see how he'd handle the extra load), running Reimer heavily.

2 conclusions they drew were that Reimer wasn't good enough to rely on should UPL falter this coming year and that Bernard-Docker didn't improve Power's play enough to risk giving him the sort of contract that Timmons will get.  One other they seem to have come to is that Quinn's improved play down the stretch (there was no way he could be as bad as he was early in the year and stay in the NHL) was an indication that he'll bounce back.  You don't give a guy twice what Krebs is making if you expect he'll be in the press box or Ra-cha-cha regularly.

They also decided that McLeod is a good one and that they were willing to overpay for the leadership that Greenway and Zucker bring.

Really would've been interesting to see what moves they'd've made had Peterka not wanted out.  Because the team is essentially the exact same minus the Peterka for Doan and Kesselring move.

[dudacek]

36 minutes ago, SabreFinn said:

Östlund, Rosen and Kulich's Corsi is interesting, any theory why they are that high?

Kulich/Thompson/Benson played well in general.

Östlund and Rosen I think were a factor of easy minutes. They both have a higher skill level than the guys they were playing against and were concentrating on no-mistake hockey

[Pimlach]

4 hours ago, 7+6=13 said:

I think you're getting confused.  This wasn't a response to the gif, it was to your humorless post @7+6=13.

 

My "humorless post" was the gif, and only the gif.   Your responded to me was that you cannot trade a player for money, which is only partially correct, and it tells me you misinterpreted the gif by taking it literally.   BTW - Cash can be included in trades, but not cash only.  

Your 👎response was to a gif that you did not fully understand, you could just admit it and move on.   After I explained it to you could just say "thanks for the clarification".  Instead you call it humorless, and maybe it was to some or most here, but you are consistent is taking shots.   

I get that you don't like me, so be it.  You can always not respond.  

 

 

 

[Flashsabre]

Cue up the classic “We will continue to look at anything that will make our team better but we are very happy with where the roster is right now” quote and call it a summer.

Edited 3 hours ago by Flashsabre

[DarthEbriate]

3 hours ago, dudacek said:

Kulich centred Thompson, but he wasn’t the 1C - McLeod was getting nearly 4 more minutes of ice time a game.

That was kinda my point earlier, as poorly expressed as it was. With Norris out, Kulich was getting 15:40 a night down the stretch compared to 19 for McLeod and 15 for Krebs.

Kozak and Östlund split the 4c role and each got 10.

Even if Kulich Thompson Benson remains a line, Kulich is not going to be the 1C

This a good way to look at it. I always tend to look at the 5on5 and stating lines as the 1-4 designation.

I do think Kulich will get much more PP time this season. Last year, MacLeod got tons of PK time and some PP.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

Boy, it's going to be a cruel summer ...

 

[Demoted]

Yes I think LINDY is done with this roster. Adams is just collecting a check this season.

Edited 2 hours ago by Demoted

[Thorny]

 

[Thorny]

4 hours ago, dudacek said:

That stretch run was also very interesting in terms of what McLeod did with that ice time and the argument he’s not good enough to be a 2C

Dude put up 22 points in his final 22 games and just one of those was on the PP and he wasn’t playing with Tage

He was also a +4 but his Corsi dropped to 46.9%

We also played at a 93 point pace in the stretch run - which we know wasn’t reflective of our season as a whole 

as always caution using a “garbage time” sample size

1 hour ago, DarthEbriate said:

This a good way to look at it. I always tend to look at the 5on5 and stating lines as the 1-4 designation.

I do think Kulich will get much more PP time this season. Last year, MacLeod got tons of PK time and some PP.

You have to write out the lines somehow 

[Taro T]

57 minutes ago, Thorny said:

 

Hmm, team with incredible goalie; team with very good to great goalie; team with incredible goalie.

Noticing a pattern here.

[Broken Ankles]

47 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Hmm, team with incredible goalie; team with very good to great goalie; team with incredible goalie.

Noticing a pattern here.