What would you give up for K’Andre Miller?

[inkman]

 

[Big Guava]

A KFC Biscuit?

[7+6=13]

Power and a prospect.  If Miller would agree to a 4 year extension at under 6.

[inkman]

37 minutes ago, 7+6=13 said:

Power and a prospect.  If Miller would agree to a 4 year extension at under 6.

I feel like this is a wee bit of an overpayment.  Also not sure they’d have any interest in Power. 

Just now, inkman said:

I feel like this is a wee bit of an overpayment.  Also not sure they’d have any interest in Power. 

How about Samuelsson & Rosen 

[7+6=13]

13 minutes ago, inkman said:

I feel like this is a wee bit of an overpayment.  Also not sure they’d have any interest in Power. 

How about Samuelsson & Rosen 

I'd pay it to get out of Power's contract and add toughness.  The loss in offense can be made up by having a better defender and have 3 more mil to keep adding.

If they don't have interest in Power, I'm not sure how Samuelsson becomes attractive.  He's less bang for the buck, less upside and injury prone.  They'll get much better offers, IMO, but I'd have to purposely fake my excitement if I was the Sabres GM.  Wait, you have to take more than 2 seconds to say yes or you'll scare them off.

I don't think we could trade Samuelsson unless we gave a team more than just him and didn't ask for anything back.

[SabreFinn]

Depends on what we can sign him for and how long. Maybe R Johnson, Rosen and a 2nd. If they add Schneider to the deal I add Byram.

[thewookie1]

No interest, Rangers fans talk about him like we had with Ristolainen.

"Should play wing"

"Braindead guy that can hit"

"Overhyped"

 

 

[bob_sauve28]

If the Rangers are in cap trouble they might take our number one for him. But he would have to be willing to sign here long term. I think that would mean one of the other D-man would have to go, though. 

[LGR4GM]

I'll trade them Samuelsson and Rosen but the idea of using Owen Power and then adding more to get Miller is not something a serious GM would do. 

Miller is a 4/5 defender at best. He's not that interesting especially with the amount he'll command. 

[Huckleberry]

Miller is not that good to trade power for him ....    Samuelsson would be a fair trade straight up no adding.

[Happy Days]

He is left handed. The Sabres need a good veteran RHD and a reliable goalie.

[JP51]

Not sure the optics of trading Power for a middle 2/3 historical D pairing guy is enough return, I feel like he (Power) would be better used as a chip to get a much more game changing player (like on the other side optically getting a former 1st overall that has been at least offensively reasonably productive) ... so I would look to people like Muel, Quinn, Rosen, picks etc... to get that done... 

Just thinking out loud... guy is a pretty big hitter... is he the guy you look to pair with Power on a 2nd line D pair... I dont know enough about other aspects of his game, but does his toughness elicit more toughness from Power if he is playing with him?  Just a thought.... 

[Mr. Allen]

I don’t really like Miller. I’d much rather go after Rasmus Anderson. 

[bob_sauve28]

So Rangers are doing this because of cap reasons, right? So trading any player back that also makes a lot of money makes no sense. Our top pick is a pretty good bargaining chip then, if that is true. Now does it make sense for us to do that? I don't know, but just saying we might have what they want. 

[Carmel Corn]

Muel.  Maybe both players just need a change of scenery.

[Pimlach]

Miller is a 3rd line d-man on a good team.   A one to one swap for Muel, and maybe we toss in a grade B prospect or 3rd round pick.  

No way you trade Power or Byram for him and then think he is going cover those minutes.  He is not good enough and the Rangers know that.  

Sabres always working on the fringe - fooling with the 3rd pair defense and 4th line is not going to move the needle.   Improve the top 4 defense and the top 6 forwards and then move some current roster players down.  

The only 4th line player they need is one that will be an enforcer.   Sorry Kevyn, but Malenstyn/Lafferty are not that guy.   

Edited 4 hours ago by Pimlach

[Mr. Allen]

6 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Miller is a 3rd line d-man on a good team.   A one to one swap for Muel, and maybe we toss in a grade B prospect or 3rd round pick.  

No way you trade Power or Byram for him and then think he is going cover those minutes.  He is not good enough and the Rangers know that.  

Sabres always working on the fringe - fooling with the 3rd pair defense and 4th line is not going to move the needle.   Improve the top 4 defense and the top 6 forwards and then move some current roster players down.  

The only 4th line player they need is one that will be an enforcer.   Sorry Kevyn, but Malenstyn/Lafferty are not that guy.   

And not the 9th overall pick either 

13 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:

Muel.  Maybe both players just need a change of scenery.

Didn’t Muel’s dad play for the Rangers? 

[Pimlach]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said:

And not the 9th overall pick either 

Didn’t Muel’s dad play for the Rangers? 

His Dad is Kjell, came up briefly with the Rangers but is known as a Flyer and a Penguin. 

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=4744

 

 

[Rasmus_]

12 hours ago, inkman said:

I feel like this is a wee bit of an overpayment.  Also not sure they’d have any interest in Power. 

How about Samuelsson & Rosen 

I like Samuelsson, Rosen and a third to sweeten it.  It gets Samuelsson out the door, moves a player I don't see as a realistic top six option and a draft pick for an upgrade.  Not sure this will be enough, but at least a start.

[LGR4GM]

27 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

So Rangers are doing this because of cap reasons, right? So trading any player back that also makes a lot of money makes no sense. Our top pick is a pretty good bargaining chip then, if that is true. Now does it make sense for us to do that? I don't know, but just saying we might have what they want. 

I'd need more than Miller for 9th. I can draft better Miller in Mrtka. Sure I gotta wait 2yrs but wth are we doing with yet another lhd anyways? At least mrtka plays the right. 

[matter2003]

Would this be our modern day Mike Grier like player, or at least filling the same type of role?

Edited 3 hours ago by matter2003

[Hawerchuk]

Nothing. He's overrated.

[LGR4GM]

30 minutes ago, Hawerchuk said:

Nothing. He's overrated.

[Flashsabre]

I’d rather have Schneider from the Rags

[inkman]

18 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

I’d rather have Schneider from the Rags

I’d rather have McDavid from the Oilers. Unfortunately neither he nor Schneider were the players in the rumor. 

56 minutes ago, Hawerchuk said:

Nothing. He's overrated.

 

24 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

You don’t think he’s an improvement over Muel or Clifton?