Seravalli: Real hard to picture JJ Peterka in a Sabres uniform this fall

[JohnC]

31 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Like no one has ever seen... it falls into the category of "You literally cant make this sh(t up"... 

What's even more enraging than the institutional foolishness is that it has been going on for a full generation without a meaningful change of course. It makes no bloody sense to me. 

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

The problem isn’t so much the Sabres giving up on the player as it is the players giving up on the franchise. If you don’t know what I’m talking about refer back to the Jack and Sam departures/escapes. It’s not surprising that when a player feels “stuck” he works to get “unstuck”. 

Absolutely, and has been mentioned here and there earlier, we already know Dahlin has spoken about wanting changes and yet there's no changes so unless there's some major roster improvements you're going to end up with another disgruntled captain. 

With Tage winning that gold the optimist says he can bring some of that winning attitude to Buffalo. The pessimist on the other hand could argue that he might have enjoyed the feeling and wants more but also sees he's not going to get it here and thus might want out as well. Regarding the 4Nations, when people question why he wasn't on it, it has been said they were looking for players who had won or knew how to win and they felt Tage hadn't experienced that at this level. These things do not go unnoticed by players. 

I felt optimistic when they hired Ruff. At this moment I have no optimism at all. 

[PromoTheRobot]

22 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Still speculation that the Sabres may lose a huge portion of Southern Ontario “fan base” because of the current US situation. 
 

 

You're really stretching to claim it won't.

We have Canadians on this board. Maybe they can give us an idea of how fans feel about crossing the border? The fact remains any reduction in market population hurts an already small Buffalo market.

Edited Wednesday at 06:24 PM by PromoTheRobot

[LabattBlue]

4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

You're really stretching to claim it won't.

We have Canadians on this board. Maybe they can give us an idea of how fans feel about crossing the border? The fact remains any reduction in market population hurts an already small Buffalo market.

Moving the goalposts I see.   Now just arguing for the sake of arguing.  i will move on.  

[PromoTheRobot]

3 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Moving the goalposts I see.   Now just arguing for the sake of arguing.  i will move on.  

Are you high or just obtuse?

I stand by my 35% claim. The stats, which you choose to ignore, bear that out. I added that any reduction hurts. I'm not moving goalposts.

But if you want to invent something to give yourself an excuse to slink away, go ahead.

Edited Wednesday at 06:32 PM by PromoTheRobot

[JohnC]

5 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Absolutely, and has been mentioned here and there earlier, we already know Dahlin has spoken about wanting changes and yet there's no changes so unless there's some major roster improvements you're going to end up with another disgruntled captain. 

With Tage winning that gold the optimist says he can bring some of that winning attitude to Buffalo. The pessimist on the other hand could argue that he might have enjoyed the feeling and wants more but also sees he's not going to get it here and thus might want out as well. Regarding the 4Nations, when people question why he wasn't on it, it has been said they were looking for players who had won or knew how to win and they felt Tage hadn't experienced that at this level. These things do not go unnoticed by players. 

I felt optimistic when they hired Ruff. At this moment I have no optimism at all. 

I'm not making any conclusive judgment on Ruff just yet because in my view the cause of this franchise's institutional failure is above him. Until the bigger issues associated with the ownership and GM are addressed,  I don't see much hope for meaningful change. Another example as to why this franchise has failed is exhibited in how Ruff was selected after a charade hiring process. A fraudulent process for a hollow organization. It's sad.   

[DarthEbriate]

7 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

With Tage winning that gold the optimist says he can bring some of that winning attitude to Buffalo. The pessimist on the other hand could argue that he might have enjoyed the feeling and wants more but also sees he's not going to get it here and thus might want out as well. Regarding the 4Nations, when people question why he wasn't on it, it has been said they were looking for players who had won or knew how to win and they felt Tage hadn't experienced that at this level. These things do not go unnoticed by players. 

Two things of note: 

1) When 4Nations was being selected, Tage was still playing center for the Sabres. Top 6: Eichel, Matthews. No room there. Also on the roster: Hughes. Nope. And the bottom 6 centers: Larkin, Trochek, Nelson.

2) TNT was good in the Worlds. Cool. He had two overtime goals. Clutch. Against...  Norway during a 4-on-3 PP and goalie Tobias Normann. And in the gold medal game against... Austria. 3-on-3 on a rush goal, against... Leonardo Genoni.

[JP51]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

What's even more enraging than the institutional foolishness is that it has been going on for a full generation without a meaningful change of course. It makes no bloody sense to me. 

Its incompetence wrapped in arrogance dipped in a thick sauce of condescension sprinkled with a bit a *uc* you little people with you little opinions mailed in a big ol box of spite...  

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, DarthEbriate said:

Two things of note: 

1) When 4Nations was being selected, Tage was still playing center for the Sabres. Top 6: Eichel, Matthews. No room there. Also on the roster: Hughes. Nope. And the bottom 6 centers: Larkin, Trochek, Nelson.

2) TNT was good in the Worlds. Cool. He had two overtime goals. Clutch. Against...  Norway during a 4-on-3 PP and goalie Tobias Normann. And in the gold medal game against... Austria. 3-on-3 on a rush goal, against... Leonardo Genoni.

1) they move so called centers to wing in those things all the time. 

2) doesn't matter what his stats were. He experienced winning. That's the thing. 

[Huckleberry]

Its off season, I don't believe anything that guy said about JJP,  Yeah his defensive game can be worked on, but no reason to trade an 80 point player.

[sabremike]

If you watch the video closely you can see Allan Walsh sticking his hand up Frank's arse.

Seriously, Frank acting as Walsh's mouthpiece here couldn't be more obvious.

[xzy89c1]

JJ gets first line minutes without earning them. On a decent team he is 2nd liner moving to third as he plays no defense. We should trade him if there are teams that think he will be a difference maker.

[Pimlach]

4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Such naïveté. The only reason Buffalo has the Sabres is legacy. The city would never be considered for expansion today. Buffalo might as well be Toledo or Peoria.  The Sabres are worth just above a billion right now.  NHL teams in the top 10 markets are worth between $2-3 billion. If an Atlanta group wanted to, they could pay Terry a billion and a half, then pay a billion to the NHL in a relocation fee, and it would still be worth it to get a team and avoid the expansion competition.

No one is going to spend a billion to keep the Sabres in Buffalo, a small market to begin with that just lost 35% of it's cross-border market thanks to the current administration. The day the Sabres are sold starts the countdown to relocation. Let's hope that Terry gets it right eventually like he did with the Bills.

Picking Atlanta as your example was not the smartest thing you could have done.   A massive two time hockey failure city and someone is going to invest $2.5B on another Atlanta team?   

There is no reason to think that Pegula would sell them to someone that will move them.   It would hurt his standing as a Bills owner for one.  Josh Allen will not play forever.  

[In The Buff]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Are you high or just obtuse?

I stand by my 35% claim. The stats, which you choose to ignore, bear that out. I added that any reduction hurts. I'm not moving goalposts.

But if you want to invent something to give yourself an excuse to slink away, go ahead.

I for one think it goes without saying that we'll have a lot less Canadian's buying tickets. Buffalonians dont want to buy tickets for the games, I can't see Canadians wanting to anymore than us. Beyond the tariffs, with the images of immigration agents locking people up & sending them to places unknown, how much value would going to a Sabres game bring versus the risks or costs that a Canadian must consider coming over the border? Wouldn't it just make sense many would say its not worth it? Heck there's a patriotism angle to it as well, where if i were a Canadian, i wouldn't want to come here after how we've treated them.

35% less might be undercutting it. But i suppose we won't know the real impacts until the season comes about.

[mjd1001]

7 hours ago, shrader said:

Chicago is a bottom 3 team in the league and next year's draft has a mega-prospect in McKenna.  The blackhawks are not risking that high percentage lottery ticket for JJ Peterka.

Its not about just Peterka...its about Peterka IF they also get Marner.

[inkman]

4 hours ago, JohnC said:

What's even more enraging than the institutional foolishness is that it has been going on for a full generation without a meaningful change of course. It makes no bloody sense to me. 

Define generation 

[JohnC]

32 minutes ago, inkman said:

Define generation 

15 years. Old enough for the male to impregnate and the female to have a baby. That's when the daddy and momma become grandpa and grandma. 

Edited Wednesday at 11:04 PM by JohnC

[Weave]

44 minutes ago, JohnC said:

15 years. Old enough for the male to impregnate and the female to have a baby. That's when the daddy and momma become grandpa and grandma. 

That is a rather unconventional definition of generation.

[JohnC]

3 minutes ago, Weave said:

That is a rather unconventional definition of generation.

No it is not. There are many countries in the world where early marriages and the bearing of childrem (compared to western countries) is common. And when I was growing up there were more than a few incidents where the guy and girl got entangled in their mid-teens. 

Edited Wednesday at 11:49 PM by JohnC

[Cityo'Rasmii]

[LabattBlue]

5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Are you high or just obtuse?

I stand by my 35% claim. The stats, which you choose to ignore, bear that out. I added that any reduction hurts. I'm not moving goalposts.

But if you want to invent something to give yourself an excuse to slink away, go ahead.

Stats to support 35% claim?  Link?

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Picking Atlanta as your example was not the smartest thing you could have done.   A massive two time hockey failure city and someone is going to invest $2.5B on another Atlanta team?   

There is no reason to think that Pegula would sell them to someone that will move them.   It would hurt his standing as a Bills owner for one.  Josh Allen will not play forever.  

Atlanta is quite serious about bring the NHL back. I didn't pull that city out of thin air.

"I don't think the prior two "visits" have any bearing on whether or not we would go back."

- Gary Bettman on Atlanta returning to the NHL. May 9, 2025.

[JohnC]

4 hours ago, JP51 said:

Its incompetence wrapped in arrogance dipped in a thick sauce of condescension sprinkled with a bit a *uc* you little people with you little opinions mailed in a big ol box of spite...  

I really don't know where the owner's head is at. There's no communication emanating from him or the organization about what they are thinking and where they are heading. I believe that it was Mike Harrington of the Buffalo News ??? who stated that he hasn't talked to the owner in over five years. That is odd. The Sabres under Pegula are not a normally functioning franchise. The Sabres have become a mocked franchise and a franchise to be avoided by potential staff and players in the league. This owner has devalued the franchise and fanbase by his inexplicable behavior. It's maddening and also weird. 

[DarthEbriate]

1 hour ago, inkman said:

Define generation 

This is totally its own thread.

There is one big ancient generation. The generation that grew up with Star Wars, the generation that drew up with the Prequels, and now a generation that is growing up with the sequel trilogy.

[PromoTheRobot]

3 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Stats to support 35% claim?  Link?

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/buffalo/politics/2025/05/28/schumer--numbers-show-drop-in-canadian-visitor-crossings

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/article_2e46062e-abf4-4e64-a517-869c709274c1.html

https://www.wxxinews.org/2025-05-28/new-york-international-bridge-crossings-plunge-compared-to-last-year