Sabres looking for Senior Advisor for Adams and Hockey Department

[JustOneParade]

1 hour ago, jahnyc said:

These potential moves make no sense.  Why would Appert have more of a role internally?  What are his qualifications?  His record as head coach at RPI was poor and I have no idea why he has been considered to be the likely candidate to replace Ruff when Ruff retires.  My sense from the board was that Karmanos had the requisite experience to be the GM (and has done a good job with the Amerks) and now he is leaving?  Retaining an experienced advisor for Adams after five years of Adams as GM?  Having him report to Adams and not Pegula?  Individually and collectively, none of this can be made sense of.

Classic (weak) executive politics and paranoia. Help/push the guy out out the door who is the biggest threat to take your job.

[Mr Peabody]

The only thing I can think of is Lindy and KA  sold TP on a plan but said they needed help implementing it.  Or TP told them they needed help.  The experienced GM thing might (hopefully) indicate he/they feel a need for stronger relationships with other GMs, agents and team execs to get deals done. 

Again, spitballing. 

 

[Stads]

The senior advisor is Pegula with a fake moustache

[Mustache of God]

25 minutes ago, Stads said:

The senior advisor is Pegula with a fake moustache

Don Perry Tegula.

[xzy89c1]

If you need a senior advisor your GM sucks. Our sucks. It is not a position you learn on the fly. You must be prepared and experienced already in an NHL front office. Unreal

[SabresVet]

4 hours ago, Weave said:

Like I said, this is the hockey equivalent of a performance improvement plan.  One missed goal and he’s gone.

This is a good sign for that reason, but they can't let go of the stench from certain holdovers even hiring someone from outside the organization.  

Because I doubt Adams makes it.  And then this individual likely takes over, albeit with factions still in place.  

They aren't going to hire someone with a solid record the longer those factions remain in place. 

[Pimlach]

6 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

What's sad is this should have been done 4 years ago.

EEE

[Pimlach]

5 hours ago, xzy89c1 said:

If you need a senior advisor your GM sucks. Our sucks. It is not a position you learn on the fly. You must be prepared and experienced already in an NHL front office. Unreal

Most teams have Hockey Operations that consist of combinations of POHO, VP, GM, and executive level Sr Advisors, Advisors, etc.  The Sabres run an austere organization in comparison.  

For Example:  Last season Rick Dudley was an advisor to Bill Zito in Florida.  He is still there I believe and he has served in executive roles on 7 other NHL teams as well over the years.  

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[pi2000]

53 minutes ago, Stads said:

The senior advisor is Pegula with a fake moustache

sénior advisor

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[Pimlach]

6 hours ago, Taro T said:

Curious how Karmanos and Ventura react to the recent news.  Guessing that it isn't THAT big of a deal if they bolt for greener pastures as having them in town for the last 4 or so years hasn't appreciably affected the results on the ice.  But, still, expect their leaving would be another bad thing to happen in this "offseason of hope."

Maybe they're cool with the changes.  But, personally would expect they want to get closer to the GM chair themselves, not farther from it.

I think that AGMs are closer to becoming GM than an Advisor is.  Just my too sense when I look at other teams.  

JBOT was one of three AGMs and he got promoted to GM.  They 

6 hours ago, Standing Room Smoking Cigs said:

Don't be surprised if Weber is in the fold by Draft Day

I would like this ^

[DarthEbriate]

4 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Most teams have Hockey Operations that consist of combinations of POHO, GM,  and executive level Sr Advisors, Advisors, etc.  The Sabres run and austere organization in comparison.  

For Example:  Last season Rick Dudley was an advisor to Bill Zito in Florida.  He is still there I believe and he has served in executive roles on 7 other NHL teams as well over the years.  

Beat me to the point. The Florida front office has multiple advisors to GM Zito. He doesn't operate in a vacuum. 

Kevyn has been operating in an EEE vacuum, to the detriment of all of us and to himself. He was a first-time GM and he had no one and he started with a coach named Krueger. I don't pity him because he's not shown well of himself, but he has been at a disadvantage compared to real Hockey Ops departments around the league.

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33 minutes ago, Mustache of God said:

Don Perry Tegula.

HELLO, FELLOW GMs!

[inkman]

 

[dudacek]

1 hour ago, JustOneParade said:

Classic (weak) executive politics and paranoia. Help/push the guy out out the door who is the biggest threat to take your job.

I wonder if the Karmanos/Adams promotion plan was part of an office power play that Kevyn won.

And let's be clear here: the new advisor won't be adding to the brain trust, he'll be replacing the only proven NHL executive in the Sabre front office.

[LGR4GM]

What a ***** joke. This place really could run this franchise better, how ***** up is that?

[DarthEbriate]

6 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Analytics added McLeod. 

If analytics were the addition of McLeod and Karmanos and Ventura both exit, it would be safe to assume he'd be a lower priority extension amongst the RFAs.

He'd be easy to snare away by a GM with a top 1C, a hole in the 2C/3C role, and a late first round pick to make an offer sheet. For example, his speed would look really good for Carolina -- who already have an extra late 1st in 2026 because of Dallas/Rantanen deal so they can move their own.

Norris, Kulich, Krebs, Kozak worries me. I like them each individually in some capacity. I think all can be elements of the same lineup. I would despise it as the center spine for next season's opener.

[MattPie]

53 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

sénior advisor

General Manager

[Flashsabre]

Paul Hamilton on WGR:
“Been told Rick Dudley would be interested in the Sabres GM job if Kevin Adams was not there”

Dudley takes Senior Advisor role, convinces Terry to can Adams and Appert. HOPE😛

Dudley is a really quality NHL exec. Him and Lindy have a relationship. Get him in the door somehow.

[Taro T]

16 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Paul Hamilton on WGR:
“Been told Rick Dudley would be interested in the Sabres GM job if Kevin Adams was not there”

Dudley takes Senior Advisor role, convinces Terry to can Adams and Appert. HOPE😛

Dudley is a really quality NHL exec. Him and Lindy have a relationship. Get him in the door somehow.

Oh sure, bring everyone back in from the ledge just to get kicked in the nads once again when we find out next week that didn't happen.

[LabattBlue]

18 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Paul Hamilton on WGR:
“Been told Rick Dudley would be interested in the Sabres GM job if Kevin Adams was not there”

Dudley takes Senior Advisor role, convinces Terry to can Adams and Appert. HOPE😛

Dudley is a really quality NHL exec. Him and Lindy have a relationship. Get him in the door somehow.

If this happened, I would be ecstatic, as Dudley would not stand for Pegula’s buffoonery. 

[Flashsabre]

50 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

If this happened, I would be ecstatic, as Dudley would not stand for Pegula’s buffoonery. 

Could you imagine Dudley sitting in on the first meeting with this organization?😂

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, Flashsabre said:

Paul Hamilton on WGR:
“Been told Rick Dudley would be interested in the Sabres GM job if Kevin Adams was not there”

Dudley takes Senior Advisor role, convinces Terry to can Adams and Appert. HOPE😛

Dudley is a really quality NHL exec. Him and Lindy have a relationship. Get him in the door somehow.

I still have the headband. 

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58 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

If this happened, I would be ecstatic, as Dudley would not stand for Pegula’s buffoonery. 

...and Dudley would be LaFontaine'd.

[LabattBlue]

33 minutes ago, ... said:

...and Dudley would be LaFontaine'd.

Which is why Dudley would probably not take the job to start with. 

[Pimlach]

34 minutes ago, ... said:

...and Dudley would be LaFontaine'd.

Dudley is steady.  He has worked for 8 teams either coaching, front office, executive, and advisory.  He could help the Sabres.