K-9 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Yes! The war between Team Sunshine and Team Storm Cloud is back on! Fans telling other fans how to behave and then chastising them when they don’t behave that way never gets old. Not! Some of the most cynical fans here have hope that we go undefeated the rest of the season and end the drought in the process. I know because I’m one of them. But that doesn’t mean I don’t also live in reality, which is that the Sabres have yet to beat tonight’s opponent. If my accepting that reality somehow offends people here, well that’s just too f***ing bad. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: Yes! The war between Team Sunshine and Team Storm Cloud is back on! Fans telling other fans how to behave and then chastising them when they don’t behave that way never gets old. Not! Some of the most cynical fans here have hope that we go undefeated the rest of the season and end the drought in the process. I know because I’m one of them. But that doesn’t mean I don’t also live in reality, which is that the Sabres have yet to beat tonight’s opponent. If my accepting that reality somehow offends people here, well that’s just too f***ing bad. Ayup. Dollars to donuts I’m a “killjoy” yet multiple posters say I’m dreaming when I say we can make the playoffs, and say I’m waisting my time when I’m drawing up and detailing all these scenarios for making it. The truth is I’m in the middle, and talk a lot, so whether the board is going off the rails with a loss, or going off the rails with a win, there’s a certain segment to which I look like an outlier a little less for the extremes would be welcome Edited March 18 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverPowerYou Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Part of me is glad I won’t be watching these next four games. I can at least wake up and look at my phone and see the losses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, inkman said: 0-5 vs Kraken in their history. Doubt they break the goose egg. 2 hours ago, K-9 said: Yep. For some reason the words “slim” and “none” keep popping up in my brain. I feel a win. I think they can stop the losing to these sea monsters. 4-2 Buffalo. I’ll probably only catch one period. Got to get up early. Someone needs more help with plumbing in the morning. Muscle Weight. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Thorny said: Ayup. Dollars to donuts I’m a “killjoy” yet multiple posters say I’m dreaming when I say we can make the playoffs, and say I’m waisting my time when I’m drawing up and detailing all these scenarios for making it. The truth is I’m in the middle, and talk a lot, so whether the board is going off the rails with a loss, or going off the rails with a win, there’s a certain segment to which I look like an outlier Until we are mathematically eliminated, the dream remains alive and it’s that simple, regardless of the long odds. That’s the beauty of sports; you’re always alive until you’re not. And even though I don’t honestly see them winning this evening, I’ll be rooting like hell that they will. That in no way makes me invested in negative outcomes. That’s for those who need to create psychological buffers to ease their disappointment if losing occurs. It’s also for those insufferable douches who love saying I told you so. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) 12 minutes ago, K-9 said: Until we are mathematically eliminated, the dream remains alive and it’s that simple, regardless of the long odds. That’s the beauty of sports; you’re always alive until you’re not. And even though I don’t honestly see them winning this evening, I’ll be rooting like hell that they will. That in no way makes me invested in negative outcomes. That’s for those who need to create psychological buffers to ease their disappointment if losing occurs. It’s also for those insufferable douches who love saying I told you so. Honestly, “I told you so’s” are fine imo, encouraged even, as long as someone is calling their shot in advance. Put it in writing. Most of the “I told you so’s” around here are in the vein of “I was told Steph curry couldn’t shoot?!” when we win 2 in a row and people ask where all the Adams haters are. i don’t care if you don’t expect playoffs until 2030: just say that’s your expectation. Admit your bias: everyone has one. I have one. I’m biased towards measuring by macro results above all else. But I’ve admitted that constantly. But more so, like Adams, there are some who just want to leave the metrics they are going to evaluate by twisting in the wind, so that we don’t ever actually have to achieve anything concrete: the stance never has to be amended. There’s a poster here who takes personal shots at me endlessly rather than focusing on shots at the posts themselves and I was still the first to give him props for “calling” UPL when he said his “told you so.” As the Irishman says: “It’s what it is.” Edited March 18 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ska-T Chitown Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, K-9 said: Until we are mathematically eliminated, the dream remains alive and it’s that simple, regardless of the long odds. That’s the beauty of sports; you’re always alive until you’re not. And even though I don’t honestly see them winning this evening, I’ll be rooting like hell that they will. That in no way makes me invested in negative outcomes. That’s for those who need to create psychological buffers to ease their disappointment if losing occurs. It’s also for those insufferable douches who love saying I told you so. To me, little old me, I think there is HUGE gap between you, Mr. Thorns (and those of your general ilk) and those that I find insufferable. Yet, I don't begrudge The Insufferables their natural birthright and civil duty of bitching on the internet. I don't like living in bubbles/silos/echo chambers ... I really like knowing about, and attempting to understand, the point of view of others. I don't personally understand the point of just coming to the forums to constantly bad-mouth the team ... but again, those who chose to do so are free to do so and as long as it is well thought out, I probably read it. (lol, as if they care ...) 🤷♀️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) Ok, beat this team already. 5 games vs them. 0-5 record. Only one of them was close, a 4-3 loss just over a year ago. The rest were blow-outs (or at least borderline blowouts), most recently a 5-2 Loss in January, a 5-1 loss, a 7-4 loss, and another 5-2 loss. So, 5 total games against them. 5 losses. 12 goals scored, 26 goals allowed. I just want to see them beat this team. One positive note...the last 2 times they faced Seattle, they have outshot them 73-48 (but still lost those 2 games by a combined score of 9-5) Edited March 18 by mjd1001 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, Thorny said: “I was told Steph curry couldn’t shoot?!” I still don’t know this reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, ska-T Chitown said: To me, little old me, I think there is HUGE gap between you, Mr. Thorns (and those of your general ilk) and those that I find insufferable. Yet, I don't begrudge The Insufferables their natural birthright and civil duty of bitching on the internet. I don't like living in bubbles/silos/echo chambers ... I really like knowing about, and attempting to understand, the point of view of others. I don't personally understand the point of just coming to the forums to constantly bad-mouth the team ... but again, those who chose to do so are free to do so and as long as it is well thought out, I probably read it. (lol, as if they care ...) 🤷♀️ Well that’s because you know ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Weave said: I still don’t know this reference. it’s basically “Reductio ad absurdum” It’s just the idea of creating an argument or stance no one actually has and arguing against it to prove your un-contested stance true. Curry example: someone makes a valid criticism “curry had a bad game today”, and then once he goes off in normal fashion 2 days later, your ardent Curry defender, who can’t hear a word against their black and white stance, chimes in, “oh, I was told Curry totally sucked?” It’s the same thing with Adams sometimes, Sabres example: people ask “where are all the haters?!!” When we go 5-5, as if people demanding playoffs were saying “the sabres are incapable of ever winning another game ever” Ultimately, it’s just the refusal to accept even a small, valid criticism Edited March 18 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ska-T Chitown Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Thorny said: it’s basically “Reductio ad absurdum” It’s just the idea of creating an argument or stance no one actually has and arguing against it to prove your un-contested stance true. Curry example: someone makes a valid criticism “curry had a bad game today”, and then once he goes off in normal fashion 2 days later, your ardent Curry defender, who can’t hear a word against their black and white stance, chimes in, “oh, I was told Curry totally sucked?” It’s the same thing with Adams sometimes, Sabres example: people ask “where are all the haters?!!” When we go 5-5, as if it people demanding playoffs were saying “the sabres are incapable of ever winning another game ever” Haven't you learned that the Internet does not like nuance? lol. You cannot possibly think Adams did a bad job during the offseason, but also cheer for the team, AND also be willing to say that if they make the playoffs this year, that this year was a success (on at least some level). Preposterous! Heresy! You have said (I think, but go with me here) that Adams botched the goalie sitch this past offseason, so you are not allowed to be happy UPL/6k is doing well this year. This is how it works! /s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ska-T Chitown Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Anyway, I have a 10pm (central) game myself - so odds are I don't get home in time to see much of the game. I look forward to all the Sabres goal memes from @Doohickie (hopefully none, or at least very few "welp!"s) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Balls Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 45 minutes ago, Pimlach said: I feel a win. I think they can stop the losing to these sea monsters. They have to beat them eventually, right? Why not tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 4 hours ago, nfreeman said: JFC. So in their stirring rally to make the playoffs, the Sabres are 5-5 in their last 10? Gimme a freaking break and fire DG yesterday. As an aside the Sabres' 10 game segments this season have yielded the following points: 10 10 7 11 10 12 9* *2 games left Consistently mediocre. Games 21-30 effectively took them out of it. 51-60 got them a little closer to the playoffs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 49 minutes ago, Pimlach said: I feel a win. I think they can stop the losing to these sea monsters. 4-2 Buffalo. I’ll probably only catch one period. Got to get up early. Someone needs more help with plumbing in the morning. Muscle Weight. I have a pipe.......errr......plumbing that needs tending to. Send me this companies info, I'll see if the pric.......hell, they're hired! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ska-T Chitown said: Haven't you learned that the Internet does not like nuance? lol. You cannot possibly think Adams did a bad job during the offseason, but also cheer for the team, AND also be willing to say that if they make the playoffs this year, that this year was a success (on at least some level). Preposterous! Heresy! You have said (I think, but go with me here) that Adams botched the goalie sitch this past offseason, so you are not allowed to be happy UPL/6k is doing well this year. This is how it works! /s Well said. - - - We need a win, and I think we get it. But what we really need as well is a Caps loss. Hopefully things continue as they have now for a while on the out of town scoreboard Edited March 18 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 And now it comes to it... It's a beautiful day. The Sabres are in town. Normally, I'd have my tickets months in advance at full price. Vividseats is claiming tickets as low as $32. Maybe I'll walk my dog to the local taproom and watch part of the game from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thorny said: it’s basically “Reductio ad absurdum” It’s just the idea of creating an argument or stance no one actually has and arguing against it to prove your un-contested stance true. Curry example: someone makes a valid criticism “curry had a bad game today”, and then once he goes off in normal fashion 2 days later, your ardent Curry defender, who can’t hear a word against their black and white stance, chimes in, “oh, I was told Curry totally sucked?” It’s the same thing with Adams sometimes, Sabres example: people ask “where are all the haters?!!” When we go 5-5, as if people demanding playoffs were saying “the sabres are incapable of ever winning another game ever” Ultimately, it’s just the refusal to accept even a small, valid criticism Ahhhhh… it’s internet discussions in a tidy little meme. I guess if we didn’t have those SDS wouldn’t have much traffic. Edited March 18 by Weave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Ankles Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Thorny said: Ayup. Dollars to donuts I’m a “killjoy” yet multiple posters say I’m dreaming when I say we can make the playoffs, and say I’m waisting my time when I’m drawing up and detailing all these scenarios for making it. The truth is I’m in the middle, and talk a lot, so whether the board is going off the rails with a loss, or going off the rails with a win, there’s a certain segment to which I look like an outlier a little less for the extremes would be welcome Not a Killjoy at all. A Kilroy maybe, as in 'Kilroy was here'. The WWII inspector of warships. You audit and verify the work of others. No, not the Dennis DeYoung line from "Mr. Roboto", when Styx jumped the shark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 27 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said: Not a Killjoy at all. A Kilroy maybe, as in 'Kilroy was here'. The WWII inspector of warships. You audit and verify the work of others. No, not the Dennis DeYoung line from "Mr. Roboto", when Styx jumped the shark. Very fair. Like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, PASabreFan said: As an aside the Sabres' 10 game segments this season have yielded the following points: 10 10 7 11 10 12 9* *2 games left Consistently mediocre. Games 21-30 effectively took them out of it. 51-60 got them a little closer to the playoffs. You digging into the data now PA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 3 hours ago, Thorny said: Name em I think we all know who they are. .... But another poster wrote something that I never thought of. Some people don't have any other avenue to vent , especially to a group that care about the Sabres as much as we do. So being able to be negative here is therapeutic for them. definitely an interesting way of looking at things and seeing things from all angles 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoot da Puck Posted March 19 Author Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) It's almost game time Quick, save yourself and hide Edited March 19 by Shoot da Puck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: They are 6-4 in their last 10. Look it up. And 3-1 since the trade deadline. Go 3-1 every four and they will probably make it in. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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