LGR4GM Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 6 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Clearly something was going on in the organization with him or he would still be there correct No. Clearly they wanted to move on yes, but that wasn't because of "something going on". He is over 30 and the Bills need to get better. Diggs was traded to clear cap and get better. Probably won't be better this season but next with the lower cap and such it will be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Just now, LGR4GM said: No. Clearly they wanted to move on yes, but that wasn't because of "something going on". He is over 30 and the Bills need to get better. Diggs was traded to clear cap and get better. Probably won't be better this season but next with the lower cap and such it will be. The only thing I think of beyond his sliding production/age (and I do think that is the main issue) is, why take such a big cap hit this year (over $30 million it appears) if its just him getting older. They could just play him less, not dress him, etc rather than taking that cap hit. I still think there might be some behind the scenes stuff going on (or maybe if they played him less they might be AFRAID he would start doing that?) I guess you can just say this is the 'reset year'. Its not only about the cap hit, but if he's not part of your future, and the 'present' isn't as good as many thing, just move on, do the best you can in 2024, and reset and re-load for 2025. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 7 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: The only thing I think of beyond his sliding production/age (and I do think that is the main issue) is, why take such a big cap hit this year (over $30 million it appears) if its just him getting older. They could just play him less, not dress him, etc rather than taking that cap hit. I still think there might be some behind the scenes stuff going on (or maybe if they played him less they might be AFRAID he would start doing that?) I guess you can just say this is the 'reset year'. Its not only about the cap hit, but if he's not part of your future, and the 'present' isn't as good as many thing, just move on, do the best you can in 2024, and reset and re-load for 2025. It is a reset year. It was always a reset year after what they did last year to try and win it all. You clear the decks, rebuild the offense and the defense with this draft and the next draft and you are right back at the top in 2025. Diggs was signed for 4 more years, sure it sucks this year but next year that's all gone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porous Five Hole Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Josh Allen had to sign off, right? So with that in mind, it was obviously time for Stef to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 36 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: No. Clearly they wanted to move on yes, but that wasn't because of "something going on". He is over 30 and the Bills need to get better. Diggs was traded to clear cap and get better. Probably won't be better this season but next with the lower cap and such it will be. His production is on the decline. WR with his skill set typically fall off fast. I wouldn’t be surprised is he’s the 3rd WR in Houston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 19 minutes ago, inkman said: His production is on the decline. WR with his skill set typically fall off fast. I wouldn’t be surprised is he’s the 3rd WR in Houston. Exactly. Time for a reset. He was not going to be here longer than this year anyways. We get younger and faster. In the long run it will be better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said: Exactly. Time for a reset. He was not going to be here longer than this year anyways. We get younger and faster. In the long run it will be better. If you want to really stretch, Houston gets a guy on the decline, that they either overpay at what? $18m per year? Or the cut him themselves and lost the 2nd rounder they gave up for him. Maybe not this year, but you could have weakened (slightly) an opponent in the conference for the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 I was more upset about the Mitts trade, tbh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Tim Graham already put out a piece saying it’s more to do with Diggs than with Diggs production. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, Doohickie said: I was more upset about the Mitts trade, tbh. Nothing wrong with that. Trading a guy who in his mid 20's is coming into his own, leading your team in points, that seems to be liked well by management and his teammates. VS Trading a 30+ year old WR that didn't much much of a difference at all the last 10 games he played, who appears to be getting to the point in his career his skill is sliding and was/is due big contract dollars the next 3-4 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalonill said: Clearly something was going on in the organization with him or he would still be there correct Reports filtering out that indeed there may have been "something" going on within the org. Quote For a long time, they put up with the passive-aggressive comments, with the All-Pro little brother insulting them and Josh Allen, with other NFL friends proclaiming he deserved better than Buffalo. They endured Diggs’ refusal to ever push back on the chirping. When I asked him about Trevon Diggs shoveling shade last season, Stefon took offense anybody would dare question his family and altogether ignored the concept of defending the Bills. They hadn’t said anything when Stefon Diggs dragged a team employee who a hot mic had caught chiding him for being difficult to work with. I'd take this with a grain of salt. Edited April 3 by LGR4GM added context 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irregularly irregular Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 BandAid has now been torn off. Cheatriots, NJJest and a rebuilding Miami are not juggernauts. One season of potentially struggling as new players fit into place then the wound is healed and the veteran QB is leading the charge. Rose colored glasses firmly in place. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujuFish Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 With only a 6th round pick involved in this year's draft, I do wonder why they didn't wait until after the draft to pull the trigger. Now it seems like an inevitability that they'll be going WR with their first pick. I wonder how that affects teams' drafting strategies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 28 minutes ago, #freejame said: Tim Graham already put out a piece saying it’s more to do with Diggs than with Diggs production. 26 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Reports filtering out that indeed there may have been "something" going on within the org. I'd take this with a grain of salt. Graham's piece and the other chatter doesn't really change my view of the matter: If Diggs were still productive at a level that could justify his contract, he'd still be here. The team would endure his eccentricities and, moreover, pay his salary provided he's producing like a WR1. Once he started to fall off and was deemed to be in decline, the team no longer felt compelled to endure his quirks and pay his significant salary. Put another way: If Diggs were a proverbial boy scout - a boring ass dude who aped all of McDermott's platitudes - I think the same deal gets made. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 As stated above, there's more to the story. Brady wasn't using him. They'll draft a WR and move on. Hell of a cap hit next year. Beane will be working hard to balance the books. It is what it is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Your bills are going all in for Malik Nabers And I believe that's the right idea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 25 minutes ago, irregularly irregular said: BandAid has now been torn off. Funny thing is, that's kind of what happened with Sammy Watkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 9 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Your bills are going all in for Malik Nabers And I believe that's the right idea as some flinty ol' guy in Maine once said: "You can't get thahh from heeyah." I'd love to see the Bills in play for one of the top 3 prospects. But I don't see a path into the top-10 for them. In the Allen draft, the Bills made 2 moves to get to where they needed to be (7th). they traded cordy glenn+ to get into the top 15 and then traded again to get to 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 7 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Funny thing is, that's kind of what happened with Sammy Watkins. Sammy was all about the whirlpool in the trainers room. He wasn't moody. Luckily, it's an insanely deep draft pool for WR's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 12 minutes ago, Night Train said: Luckily, it's an insanely deep draft pool for WR's. I'm bracing myself for the Bills' plan to be to take a guy like Thomas from LSU - who reportedly is a bit raw and needs some work - and go into the season with a WR corps of Samuel, Shakir, Hollins, the rookie WR, and a WR5 who's a ST guy (Shorter/Isabella). That might be a bit of butthole clenching time. There'd be Kincaid and Cook as well, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, That Aud Smell said: I'm bracing myself for the Bills' plan to be to take a guy like Thomas from LSU - who reportedly is a bit raw and needs some work - and go into the season with a WR corps of Samuel, Shakir, Hollins, the rookie WR, and a WR5 who's a ST guy (Shorter/Isabella). That might be a bit of butthole clenching time. There'd be Kincaid and Cook as well, though. Big Balls Beane usually doesn’t leave any position that vulnerable. I’d be surprised if they don’t bring in a guy or two plus whatever the draft adds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, inkman said: Big Balls Beane usually doesn’t leave any position that vulnerable. I’d be surprised if they don’t bring in a guy or two plus whatever the draft adds. Let's Go, Brandon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneParade Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, inkman said: His production is on the decline. WR with his skill set typically fall off fast. I wouldn’t be surprised is he’s the 3rd WR in Houston. What do you know? You're just a hockey guy talkin football on a hockey forum. Am I doing that right?? 😃 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 I was never a fan. Such a drama queen publickly, can't imagine what kind of maintenance he required internally. That's one less distraction contributing to Allen's thousand-mile stare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneParade Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 So, the Bills just ate a massive salary/bonus payout to get a guy off the team. Does the same guy own the Bills and Sabres? (And, yes, I understand the economics or the two leagues). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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