Curt Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Oh, now I get it! @Buffalonill was just trying to get this thread to the 1K posts mark! Well done sir. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 I don’t know if Benson is better than Savoie or not. I do know that they have dynamic chemistry together. If you are lucky enough to draft Benson then keep them together and profit. Find a big physical winger to play with them and you have a heck of a line. But if they draft Benson then that does open up a deal for an Östlund or Rosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Curt said: No. He literally had the entire offseason to rehab. He was healthy. Feels like you are bending over backwards to find a reason to diss Benson just because you don’t think Buffalo should draft another smaller forward. Benson finished only behind Bedard in WHL scoring for draft year guys. You are being kind of weird about this. Don't know if he was still hindered by the shoulder or not early on; but defintiely remember people speculating that was why Savoie had a slow start this year. And will take the word of those of you that pay far more attention to Juniors than this guy that Benson is better than Savoie (haven't seen anywhere close to enough of either to have a legit opinion on the matter). Just pointing out that there MAY be something to @Buffalonill's position regarding Savoie's shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 So there might be a Civil War going on in Russia tonight. I wonder if it affects the draft at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 I don't see any Russian being taken now its unfortunate but it seems likely now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalonill said: I don't see any Russian being taken now its unfortunate but it seems likely now Michkov is already in Nashville for the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, French Collection said: Michkov is already in Nashville for the draft. So you haven't been watching the news. He better find a way to stay because these players will never see the NHL with this war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: So you haven't been watching the news. He better find a way to stay because these players will never see the NHL with this war Too early to say. It’s interesting and concerning, but I don’t think we can say what the results will be. Can you explain your reasoning for why you are so certain that this will prevent hockey players from coming to the United States? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, Curt said: Too early to say. It’s interesting and concerning, but I don’t think we can say what the results will be. Can you explain your reasoning for why you are so certain that this will prevent hockey players from coming to the United States? Seeing how they woud be forced to be In the war is my reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Seeing how they woud be forced to be In the war is my reasoning. I doubt it. I think we are pretty far from full scale collapse of the Russian government. That’s basically where we would need to be before I think star hockey players would be enlisted by force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Curt said: I doubt it. I think we are pretty far from full scale collapse of the Russian government. That’s basically where we would need to be before I think star hockey players would be enlisted by force. Do you think the Russian army care one ounce about hockey ? Russia players have military obligation they have to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Do you think the Russian army care one ounce about hockey ? Russia players have military obligation they have to go As of right now, yes, the Russian army does care about hockey. The pro hockey players are exempted from their military requirements as long as they honor their KHL contracts. Hockey is a propaganda tool of the Russian government and players serve the government better in that capacity. I honestly have a hard time envisioning a scenario where this would change. Edited June 24, 2023 by Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 It is concerning. Things seem to be changing, could go in any direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Apparently there is a leak in the duck's organization rumors are they Are taking Carlsson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Apparently there is a leak in the duck's organization rumors are they Are taking Carlsson. Jeff Marek mentioned someone told him do not be surprised if the Ducks take Michkov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Apparently there is a leak in the duck's organization rumors are they Are taking Carlsson. 20 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Jeff Marek mentioned someone told him do not be surprised if the Ducks take Michkov. I believe Marek (or Friedman) also brought up the extremely good point that everyone lies, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, Curt said: I believe Marek (or Friedman) also brought up the extremely good point that everyone lies, lol. It was Friedman and yes everyone lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Brawndo said: It was Friedman and yes everyone lies. Should be an interesting draft. But I'm still hoping buffalo trades the pick but that seems unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Curt said: I doubt it. I think we are pretty far from full scale collapse of the Russian government. That’s basically where we would need to be before I think star hockey players would be enlisted by force. I don't think the issue is so much enlisting players for the military as it would be allowing people to leave Russia. I agree with @Buffalonill(unusual to do so) that the war and the internal conflict within the country is a potentially complicating feature to drafting Russian prospects. There is another aspect to this situation. Because of the situation that is getting more out of control by the day, the Sabres might be able to get a high end prospect at a lower draft spot because some teams would be reluctant to risk losing out on a prospect due to availability concerns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Curt said: I doubt it. I think we are pretty far from full scale collapse of the Russian government. That’s basically where we would need to be before I think star hockey players would be enlisted by force. I agree there won’t be a full scale collapse of the Russian government, but the effects of this situation are going to reverberate. There’s 10x more questions now. Will Russia declare martial law? Will they block all those leaving the country? If Wagner becomes defunct, who will take their place? Will Russia turn to widespread conscription to fight Putin’s war? If all this happens, is a KHL season in jeopardy? Will all this nonsense make prospects more likely to jump ship now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, kas23 said: I agree there won’t be a full scale collapse of the Russian government, but the effects of this situation are going to reverberate. There’s 10x more questions now. Will Russia declare martial law? Will they block all those leaving the country? If Wagner becomes defunct, who will take their place? Will Russia turn to widespread conscription to fight Putin’s war? If all this happens, is a KHL season in jeopardy? Will all this nonsense make prospects more likely to jump ship now? As you point out there are a lot of unknowns. Organizations prefer not dealing with unknowns. If you were a scout or in some way associated with a team, would you want to go to Russia and risk being arrested on some manufactured charged and be used as a hostage and trade chip? What a mess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Curt said: I doubt it. I think we are pretty far from full scale collapse of the Russian government. That’s basically where we would need to be before I think star hockey players would be enlisted by force. We are always one defenestration away from the collapse of the Russian government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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French Collection Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Eleven said: We are always one defenestration away from the collapse of the Russian government. Had to look it up. There have been a huge number of falls out of windows. Oligarchs must be moving into single story mansions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, French Collection said: Had to look it up. There have been a huge number of falls out of windows. Oligarchs must be moving into single story mansions. Kremlin just stated that it is preparing for martial law and has ordered Prigo's arrest. No way should the Sabres take a Russian in the early rounds. Edited June 24, 2023 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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