bob_sauve28 Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 9/19/2022 at 2:21 PM, Taro T said: If UPL & Subban can give them reasonable or better goaltending they should be alright. Does he have to clear waivers to go to AHL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Does he have to clear waivers to go to AHL? Yes. He was waived yesterday. We should know by lunchtime if he cleared, but nobody wants Subban to be their backup, so he'll clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, dudacek said: Yes. He was waived yesterday. We should know by lunchtime if he cleared, but nobody wants Subban to be their backup, so he'll clear. Goalie shortages being what they are and his age being in the sweet spot for a goalie to do well, would not surprise me if he gets picked up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Goalie shortages being what they are and his age being in the sweet spot for a goalie to do well, would not surprise me if he gets picked up If he does, he has to stay up for 30 days or x # of games or the Sabres get him back (if they want him) as soon as the claiming team tries to waive him. Can't see anybody thinking he's their 2nd best option at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Subban cleared and Has been assigned to the Amerks. I was listening to a Podcast and they were wondering if given the depth of the Amerks Forward Group, would Kozak be better served by returning to Portland, playing Top Line Minutes to continue to see if He can continue to improve His Offense. Personally I would rather have Him develop under Peca as He will have a Third/Fourth Line Role with the Sabres. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mustache of God Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said: Goalie shortages being what they are and his age being in the sweet spot for a goalie to do well, would not surprise me if he gets picked up Remember that every team this time of year is releasing goalies, and if they claimed Subban he'd have to be on their NHL roster. Subban is 4th on the Sabres depth chart, a team who hasn't had the goaltending sorted out since Ryan Miller was here. Nobody is claiming him. Edited October 4, 2022 by Mustache of God typo for clarity 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Mustache of God said: Remember that every team this time of year is releasing goalies, and if they claimed Subban he'd have to be on their NHL roster. Subban is 4th on the Sabres depth chart, a team who hasn't had the goaltending sorted out since Ryan Miller was here. Nobody is claiming him. I'm glad we kept him. After last year it's clear we actually--God forbid--might need him. Also, there is that chance he actually turns the corner and becomes good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said: I'm glad we kept him. After last year it's clear we actually--God forbid--might need him. Also, there is that chance he actually turns the corner and becomes good. No, no there isn't. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: No, no there isn't. That's what the said about Dom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: That's what they said about Dom Im sorry, are you comparing Subban to Dominik Hasek? A player who played 53 NHL games before his breakout and is arguably the best goaltender to every play the game. Subban has 86 games played btw. Anytime you have to go to the very greatest player to prove an exception, you just make the opposing argument stronger. Malcolm Subban isn't going to turn the corner and become good in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, LGR4GM said: Im sorry, are you comparing Subban to Dominik Hasek? A player who played 53 NHL games before his breakout and is arguably the best goaltender to every play the game. Subban has 86 games played btw. Anytime you have to go to the very greatest player to prove an exception, you just make the opposing argument stronger. Malcolm Subban isn't going to turn the corner and become good in the NHL. Dom was a nobody before he became the greatest goaltender ever. Subban might be good someday. To the bolded, no, not true at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Dom was a nobody before he became the greatest goaltender ever. Subban might be good someday. To the bolded, no, not true at all. Dom was NOT a nobody. He was the best goalie in the 3rd best league in the world 5 years running. He had dominant stats in the AHL & the NHL the handful of opportunities he got at the NHL level. That he had the misfortune of coming over to NA at the same time Belfour was having one of the best rookie seasons of all time & then had the misfortune of Muckler being too dumb to realize what he had did NOT make Hasek a nobody. Was as happy the day the Sabres traded for Hasek as when they traded for Hawerchuk & then LaFontaine. All 3 were special. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: Dom was NOT a nobody. He was the best goalie in the 3rd best league in the world 5 years running. He had dominant stats in the AHL & the NHL the handful of opportunities he got at the NHL level. That he had the misfortune of coming over to NA at the same time Belfour was having one of the best rookie seasons of all time & then had the misfortune of Muckler being too dumb to realize what he had did NOT make Hasek a nobody. Was as happy the day the Sabres traded for Hasek as when they traded for Hawerchuk & then LaFontaine. All 3 were special. Dom was a great surprise to almost everyone. I hope Subban is, too. Why this injures anyone's pride or gets their blood pressure flowing is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Dom was a great surprise to almost everyone. I hope Subban is, too. Why this injures anyone's pride or gets their blood pressure flowing is beyond me. No pride injured. Just responding to a flat out untrue narrative. Every time it gets repeated, will counter with the facts to dispel it. And it gets repeated every 3-4 months. Would expect by now that it wouldn't come up that often, but it still does. And, if his history in Czechoslovakia were known, his results wouldn't have been any more surprising than Roy's or Brodeur's. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Subban is a good depth goalie and an amazing teammate. He will probably play a few games for Buffalo this season which is fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) Potential lines for the Amerks (without Bjork, Sheahan, Pilut or Fitz being returned) Forwards Biro Malone Rosen Mersch Kulich Rousek Kisakov Kozak Weissbach Murray Pekar Cederqvist Defense Clague Laaksonen Davies Priskie Tischke Prow ex: Eliot Goalies: UPL Subban What a nice looking lineup. Some raw rookies like Kulich, Rosen, Kozak and Kisakov, but no denying their talent. 4 forwards, 4D and both goalies w some NHL experience. Real physical 4th line. I worry a little about the D. Adding Fitz to the group would help. Edited October 4, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Potential lines for the Amerks (without Bjork, Sheahan, Pilut or Fitz being returned) Forwards Biro Malone Rosen Mersch Kulich Rousek Kisakov Kozak Weissbach Murray Pekar Cederqvist Defense Clague Laaksonen Davies Priskie Tischke Prow ex: Eliot Goalies: UPL Subban What a nice looking lineup. Some raw rookies like Kulich, Rosen, Kozak and Kisakov, but no denying their talent. 4 forwards, Real physical 4th line. I worry a little about the D. Adding Fitz to the group would help. That is an intriguing lineup. Lots of development up front as the year progresses. This Is Laaksonen’s make or break season. If he doesn’t improve or breakthrough this season they probably move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Subban is a good depth goalie and an amazing teammate. He will probably play a few games for Buffalo this season which is fine. No offense to him at all, but really hoping he doesn't see any action in Buffalo this year. It's been far too long since this was a 2-3 goalie/ season team & they're due. With Anderson in the top 2, can't see them getting through the year entirely on just 2 goalies. But getting by w/ just 3 would be a step in the right direction. (And won't hold a game or 2 for Levi against them. Pretty sure that's already part of the deal to get him to leave NE as soon as the Huskies season is done.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 48 minutes ago, Taro T said: No pride injured. Just responding to a flat out untrue narrative. Every time it gets repeated, will counter with the facts to dispel it. And it gets repeated every 3-4 months. Would expect by now that it wouldn't come up that often, but it still does. And, if his history in Czechoslovakia were known, his results wouldn't have been any more surprising than Roy's or Brodeur's. Who did we trade to acquire him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Who did we trade to acquire him? You want the official trade or the actual trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: You want the official trade or the actual trade? I just want the point made it was not that much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, bob_sauve28 said: I just want the point made it was not that much Because there was an expansion draft underway. And Muckler exposed him to another expansion draft because he's an idiot & had no idea what he had. Which is also why he gave up a ton for Fuhr, who, to Muckler's credit, he did trade away a couple of years later once he'd twigged onto the fact that Hasek was pretty d*mn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Flashsabre said: Subban is a good depth goalie and an amazing teammate. He will probably play a few games for Buffalo this season which is fine. Nice to have a decent backup anthem singer, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Saw a guy named Emmett Sproule on the Amerks camp roster. Looked him up and he scored 30 goals and added 56 assists for the Pete’s last year. Anyone know anything about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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