LGR4GM Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Eleven said: Here's why attempting to litigate via bullying on twitter is a bad idea: Her attorney strongly implies that it was statutory and not forcible rape with this tweet: His other tweets are even worse. This is dumb from her attorney. Why on earth would Araizas attorney admit to anything, that's not is job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 57 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Oy vey. If the Bills knew about the complaint’s allegations when they cut Haack — yuck. Well, they said they investigated. Presumably their investigation yielded the conclusion that he didn't do what he's accused of, which is what his attorney said. It's also worth noting that criminal charges haven't been brought despite this occurring 10 months ago. It's likely the DA's office concluded that there isn't sufficient evidence to support criminal charges. I don't think a team has to dump a player based solely on an accusation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Eleven said: Whatever happened or didn't happen last October, I'm calling this right now: There's something wrong with this Gilleon fellow. Indeed. Gilleon had a long phone call with the team's attorney. What else was he expecting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Indeed. Gilleon had a long phone call with the team's attorney. What else was he expecting? Pretty sure HE was expecting a cash payout to make this go away. Guessing the girl went this way because she saw no movement forward from the police on her initial complaint and thought this was a way to force them to act. (Guess based on the really limited info we currently have. Am fully willing to change that opinion should more info come forth.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Also a minor request. Could the posts regarding the lawsuit get moved to their own thread? This seems to be a big enough story to not simply be lumped in with all things Bills related? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, nfreeman said: Well, they said they investigated. Presumably their investigation yielded the conclusion that he didn't do what he's accused of, which is what his attorney said. It's also worth noting that criminal charges haven't been brought despite this occurring 10 months ago. It's likely the DA's office concluded that there isn't sufficient evidence to support criminal charges. I don't think a team has to dump a player based solely on an accusation. No, the DA's office has not received anything from the police who are apparently sitting on rape kit results. They probably filed civilly so something, anything would happen. If it were my daughter I'd do the same thing with the police inaction they've faced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 The Bills have no way at this point to declare him innocent. They've calculated the risks obviously, he's on the team, so I'm sure they're hoping this goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Thwomp! said: No, the DA's office has not received anything from the police who are apparently sitting on rape kit results. They probably filed civilly so something, anything would happen. If it were my daughter I'd do the same thing with the police inaction they've faced. Well, ESPN states: Quote A day after the party, Doe reported the alleged rape to San Diego police, who opened an investigation. No arrests have been made and the suspects had not been publicly identified, but detectives recently submitted their findings to the district attorney's office to determine whether charges should be filed. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34460423/buffalo-bills-punter-matt-araiza-two-san-diego-state-football-players-accused-gang-raping-minor-lawsuit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Eleven said: Here's why attempting to litigate via bullying on twitter is a bad idea: Her attorney strongly implies that it was statutory and not forcible rape with this tweet: His other tweets are even worse. "How dare you air this out through the media" -said through media No offense to you lawyers out there, but they're all pond scum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Well, ESPN states: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34460423/buffalo-bills-punter-matt-araiza-two-san-diego-state-football-players-accused-gang-raping-minor-lawsuit I was going by the videos. There is certainly conflicting information on almost every aspect of this depending on source. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 I am taking local news with a direct statement from the DA's office over ESPN any day, however. 😜 Also what are the chances that the police filed with the DA after the news report aired? ESPN's source definitely seems like the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5th line wingnutt Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 What does the CBA have to say about situations like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 I just read through the attorney’s Twitter page and there’s definitely something fishy going on concerning MA. That’s not to say nothing happened to the girl, but something is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, #freejame said: I just read through the attorney’s Twitter page and there’s definitely something fishy going on concerning MA. That’s not to say nothing happened to the girl, but something is off. I don't think it says anything about the case either way, but that lawyer is clearly a loon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Eleven said: I don't think that's saying otherwise. "Recently" is a lovely vague word. They mean it to imply that their knowledge of the complaint’s allegations post-dates their cutting Haack. But, as you say, they’re being vague about it so they can avoid stepping in it. 4 hours ago, nfreeman said: I don't think a team has to dump a player based solely on an accusation. The kinds of specific - and horrific - allegations found in that complaint could (should?) have been enough to tip the balance against a player who was in a close competition. (From what I read in the camp coverage, it was a close competition.) Edited August 26, 2022 by That Aud Smell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Saw this elsewhere. For any interested in taking an action rather than simply reacting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) Why would the Bills risk squandering the incredible goodwill they’ve cultivated over a rookie punter? So strange. Edited August 26, 2022 by That Aud Smell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: The kinds of specific - and horrific - allegations found in that complaint could (should?) have been enough to tip the balance against a player who was in a close competition. (From what I read in the camp coverage, it was a close competition.) 3 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Why would the Bills risk squandering the incredible goodwill they’ve cultivated over a rookie punter? So strange. What if it turns out that the whole thing is BS? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) Rather insane this guy is still a Bill. FFS Edited August 26, 2022 by Thorny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Araiza isn't taking snaps as the holder with Ferguson. Micah Hyde is the holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Apparently now this is also happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 The holder position might be more important then the punter this season. Hopefully someone can do the job this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 hours ago, nfreeman said: What if it turns out that the whole thing is BS? Initial indications weigh heavily against that. Besides which: At a minimum, he’s already essentially admitted that he had sex with a 17 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Boogie Bashman isn't that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indabuff Posted August 27, 2022 Report Share Posted August 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Taro T said: I risk being denigrated here but this response feels kinda sleazy to me. IMO it feels like a shot at Bills fans' compassion for a situation that is currently beginning to unfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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