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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

The United States has spent the last 50 years aggressively defunding education. States like Indiana now have teacher shortages because who wants to have to get a 4 year degree (40k in debt) to make 32k a year. The math doesn't work and yet we are surprised that large swaths of the populous thinks vaccines don't work. 

 

I dont want to say anything negative about teaching because its a thankless job. However, teachers work 180 days per year

 Regular workers have 262 days. Excluding holidays and sick days, if teachers worked the same numbers of days, 32k becomes much closer to 50k, which is good. 

If school went full year round like regular workers have to deal with is what im getting at

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1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

I dont want to say anything negative about teaching because its a thankless job. However, teachers work 180 days per year

 Regular workers have 262 days. Excluding holidays and sick days, if teachers worked the same numbers of days, 32k becomes much closer to 50k, which is good. 

If school went full year round like regular workers have to deal with is what im getting at

My teacher wife gets three weeks off over the summer on average.  That's it.  There's usually mandatory training, pre-year planning, and some other stuff that I don't recall.  But basically we both get three weeks per year vacation, only I get to pick when mine is.

Also, with grading and planning and everything else she does during the school year, she puts in a 50-60 hour week during the school year.  By the time we get to this time of year she's totally spent and just trying to make it to the end.

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My wife and I just had our 2nd moderna shots at a walk-up site that required zero waiting and then an A-plus NYC lunch to celebrate.  The sun came out as we sat down and it’s turning into a nice day.

My daughter is getting her 2nd Pfizer shot next week and we are going to try to attend a Nets playoff game after her 2 weeks are up.

Life!

Hallelujah.

 

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4 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

My teacher wife gets three weeks off over the summer on average.  That's it.  There's usually mandatory training, pre-year planning, and some other stuff that I don't recall.  But basically we both get three weeks per year vacation, only I get to pick when mine is.

Yeah, I was just going to say something similar.  They do have a pretty nice schedule for family life, being off all holidays and a lot of the summer when kids are, but they certainly work more than 180 days per year.  They do a lot of prep work in the summer and they have some mandatory meeting/trainings.

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20 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I dont want to say anything negative about teaching because its a thankless job. However, teachers work 180 days per year

 Regular workers have 262 days. Excluding holidays and sick days, if teachers worked the same numbers of days, 32k becomes much closer to 50k, which is good. 

If school went full year round like regular workers have to deal with is what im getting at

I think you know this but I want to say it anyways. There is so much illogical nonsense with comparing a teacher to what I assume is a 9-5 worker. I don't want to get into this but this type of thinking, hours worked = pay, is the exact type of issue we have as a country. We equate hours instead of output with working. You are basically saying teachers should get 2nd jobs because they don't do enough. 

I'd bet money teachers do more work in a day than a lot of 40 hour a week ppl. 

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1 hour ago, Doohickie said:

Anyone who says teachers only work 9 months of the year doesn't know what they're talking about.

Depends on the situation, I guess.  My roommate is a teacher and has like 10 weeks off for summer.  And I'm always first out the door and last back, despite living 3 minutes away from work, so she also works fewer hours each week.  And then there's several vacation weeks each year, including "February vacation".

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7 hours ago, JujuFish said:

The J&J vaccine is made from a cell line that was from an 18-week old aborted fetus...from 1985. Embryonic cells are used to mass produce the engineered virus the J&J vaccine uses, and then filtered out of the final product. No new fetal tissue is needed. Babies aren't dying for this vaccine, nor is there any fetal tissue in the product.

 

Interesting. I didn't know that. Even so, I can see why someone might not want that put into their body.

 

3 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

Im all for getting free *****, but asking to get paid to make myself safe has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. I can get the shot and severely reduce my risk of dying or i will hold out and take my chances unless i get paid

Should be called United states of idiots

https://www.yahoo.com/news/100-vaccine-incentive-experiment-suggests-115743715.html

They should have just tied it to the stimulus check.

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29 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I didn't mean to insult anyone on my teacher comment. 

I know. I just don't like that comparison because I think it is missing a lot of what makes teaching hard. I also think it underestimates how much teachers actually work. 

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5 hours ago, JujuFish said:

Depends on the situation, I guess.  My roommate is a teacher and has like 10 weeks off for summer.  And I'm always first out the door and last back, despite living 3 minutes away from work, so she also works fewer hours each week.  And then there's several vacation weeks each year, including "February vacation".

Yeah, they have a great work schedule.  They do work more than 180 days, but it’s still a fantastic schedule.  It’s probably the best thing about working in the school system, apart from a passion for working with/teaching kids.

3 hours ago, Eleven said:

Looks like Bill had better move quickly if he wants to microchip Melinda.

Don’t fool yourself.  She’s no doubt been microchipped for a couple decades already.

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My wifes company has now required all employees return to work in the office. No exceptions. well, except for a couple of managers, of course

 

My wife was saying one of the employees has medical conditions and is having a bad time with the madk being on all day. She is very nervous about catching covid and she spoke to hr, and they told her too bad. 

 

Very compassionate 

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12 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

My wifes company has now required all employees return to work in the office. No exceptions. well, except for a couple of managers, of course

 

My wife was saying one of the employees has medical conditions and is having a bad time with the madk being on all day. She is very nervous about catching covid and she spoke to hr, and they told her too bad. 

 

Very compassionate 

Not to sound too cold, but a lot of people have had to go in to work every day straight through this whole thing.

I certainly understand the anxiety though and companies should be as accommodating as possible for someone with a diagnosed medical condition.

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8 hours ago, Curt said:

Not to sound too cold, but a lot of people have had to go in to work every day straight through this whole thing.

I certainly understand the anxiety though and companies should be as accommodating as possible for someone with a diagnosed medical condition.

My wife has been required to go in evry day. It was just a skeleton crew at the time. Now its a full staff

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13 hours ago, Curt said:

Not to sound too cold, but a lot of people have had to go in to work every day straight through this whole thing.

I certainly understand the anxiety though and companies should be as accommodating as possible for someone with a diagnosed medical condition.

I see it as a blessing in disguise that my teacher wife (who has immune system issues and asthma) had a tough rehab after her December knee replacement.  She was at home all through the local peak in Jan-Feb.  Yeah, she didn't get paid once her PTO ran out but her exposure was minimized and by the time she returned she was vaxed.

Among her specific concerns was that her school has many classrooms that have no windows (still can't figure out how they can do that), so pretty much all the air is, by definition, recirculated.  Also, although students were told to wear masks, the administration didn't really enforce it (since the principal herself is an anti-masker/anti-vaxer), and class sizes meant that 6 feet of separation was not possible.

If everyone took the virus seriously, these concerns would not be as great since people would have all been taking precautions, but the people who are lax about masks, etc., are also the ones most likely to be carrying the virus.

Cases locally have been reduced a great deal, from 3000+ new cases daily in January to 97 yesterday.  I am encouraged by the reduction, and I think the number of vaccinations is helping, but I'll feel better when that number is flirting with zero and new community spread cases are rare.

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20 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

NFL will give out Superbowl tickets to encourage vaccinations. 

 

I think I like this kind of thing as a way of exposing how shallow the opposition to vaccines is for most (the vast majority?). I have a brother who won't get vaccinated because "no one's gonna tell me what to do." It wouldn't take much more than a free dinner at a nice Italian restaurant to change his mind. Super Bowl. NASCAR tickets. Chik Fil A and Cracker Barrel coupons. Ammo. Let 'er rip.

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1 minute ago, PASabreFan said:

I think I like this kind of thing as a way of exposing how shallow the opposition to vaccines is for most (the vast majority?). I have a brother who won't get vaccinated because "no one's gonna tell me what to do." It wouldn't take much more than a free dinner at a nice Italian restaurant to change his mind. Super Bowl. NASCAR tickets. Chik Fil A and Cracker Barrel coupons. Ammo. Let 'er rip.

Nascar would be a good partner. 

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