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Thoughts After the Death of Charlie Kirk
K-9 replied to Taro T's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
While MAGA rejoices at the thought of a state controlled media, they should study Putin’s tactics from 1999 when he first came into power in Russia. The first thing he did in an attempt to accomplish his goal was to go after Russian comedians and shut them up. But what am I saying? Of course MAGA have studied Putins tactics because they are in the process of adopting and implementing those tactics as I type this. Lets just call a spade a spade: free speech is only free speech when it says something favorable about Trump. That’s MAGA doctrine 101. -
Thoughts After the Death of Charlie Kirk
Demoted replied to Taro T's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
MARTHA MACCALLUM: Charlie said, you know, that there was no such thing as hate speech. He obviously– you know no one anticipated what would happen to Charlie. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Yeah–. He might not be saying that now! MARTHA MACCALLUM: But you have always been in favor of free speech. So do you have concerns about–. You know some people look at this, and your critics will say, well–. This crackdown is a crackdown on free speech. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: You know, it’s interesting. I watch your show and I watch others and I see people saying things. They’re crazy. He never cared about this guy. -
Now it’s Estonia. Keep phucking around and find out Putin. Cheeto in Chief has made it clear he has no intention of standing by our commitment to the greatest treaty organization in history unless there’s a side deal on oil, which is a whole other level of phucked up. And even if there is a deal, he won’t stand by our commitment, anyway. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czrp6p5mj3zo
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Yet Another Example of Fascist Behavior
K-9 replied to K-9's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
I’m sure his maga defenders will say it’s just Trump being Trump. Well, phuck that! Trump being Trump, fascists being fascists, and maga just excusing it IS THE DAMN PROBLEM! Anyone who doesn’t condemn this is complicit. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-fcc-revoke-tv-broadcast-licenses-over-bad-publicity-rcna232339 -
So sue me. I really don’t give two phucks what you think of the accuracy of the section I quoted. Your MAGA leaders have done nothing but exploit Kirk’s death since it happened and Kimmel, was right about that entirely. And they want people punished for simply exercising free speech. That is wrong. Period. I never said a damn thing about Tucker Carlson when he was fired, only that even though he is a rank a$$hole and his rhetoric is offensive, he has every right to be a rank a$$hole spewing offensive rhetoric in this country. Same with Brian Kilmead who said homeless people should be killed. Companies can fire whoever the phuck they want, so spare me your bull$hit on that score. I’m done engaging you on these matters. I don’t buy your passive aggressive advocacy for Trump and all things MAGA. Your lack of condemnation of their blatant anti-American, anti-Constitutional, anti-rule of law ideology has been telling since this admin took office. Failure to speak out against makes you complicit. Congratulations. Put me on ignore.
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You quoted kimmels words, "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.”, then you said, "Kimmel spoke the truth, simple as that." Now you're saying you were only claiming Kimmel spoke the truth when he gave his opinion on "MAGA gang" motives, but not the blatant lie about the shooter? You're further stance is that it doesn't matter anyway because his parents are Trump supporters so that's close enough? The shooter being in a relationship with his transgender roommate and leaning left politically is not your typical MAGA person. For the record, I don't think Kimmel should be fired for political theater, but his first amendment rights were not violated and I won't bitch about it. I don't think Colbert should be fired for political theater, but his first amendment rights weren't violated and I didn't bitch about it. I forget, were you screaming "FIRST AMENDMENT!!" when Tucker Carlson was fired? I don't think he should have been fired for political theater but i didn't bitch about it, wouldn't you agree I'd be a hypocrite if I did?
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Kimmel’s truth was in saying that Trump and the rest of the GOP far right have insisted on exploiting Kirk’s death for political gain a d insisting that the killer was some far left radical. I don’t know or much less care if he was MAGA or not and not that it matters, but he comes from a Trump voting family. And it’s beyond disgusting that Vance and others want people to be fired for simply quoting Kirk’s own words. Some of us care about our first amendment rights. Too bad this radical, fascist wing of the GOP doesn’t.
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So you are saying we should cancel Trump for blaming democrats for Charlie Kirks death? Would only be fair wouldn't it?
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Kimmel spoke the truth? You're saying the shooter who assassinated Kirk was MAGA? wow.
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Yet Another Example of Fascist Behavior
Demoted replied to K-9's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
I am talking about the people still supporting him. I understand why they did b.c the democrats were an absolute mess of a party. There is no good side. -
Kimmel “suspended indefinitely” is not the same as canceled. These shameless fascists have done nothing but try to score political points by exploiting the tragic death of Kirk. Kimmel spoke the truth, simple as that. Kimmel has said far, far, FAR worse things about Trump and others, so why this? It’s a rhetorical question.
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Yet Another Example of Fascist Behavior
K-9 replied to K-9's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
I appreciate where you’re coming from here, but more than my concern for who replaces these traitors, is my concern for the very fabric of our country; our people. I’d like to think it’s as easy as people simply realizing they voted for incompetent buffoons and having a change of heart, but I don’t think it’s that easy in the least. A good portion of our citizenry has become anti-Constitution, anti-rule of law, and no longer places a high value on character as the starting point for the traits required to hold elected office. One thing that gave me hope was Bernie Sanders’s tour of West Virginia last month. The clueless Democratic party needs to take a lesson from that tour and go to all those formerly blue, now red places and LISTEN to those voters and INFORM them of their ideas for solving the issues those voters are facing. It’s amazing how much alike those issues are with people in the bluest of states. But democrat power brokers are just as beholding to their billionaire puppet masters as the GOP, so I’m skeptical they will do that. -
Yet Another Example of Fascist Behavior
LTS replied to K-9's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
Should we once again bring up the fact that the "low IQ easily brainwashed people" were more abundant in their voting than those you do not put in that group? Once the left controls everything we'll just be getting bent over by a different form of dictator. The belief that the left is somehow the "good guy" indicates just as much brainwashing as the people you are throwing shade at. -
Kimmel canceled? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/abc-suspends-jimmy-kimmel-live-charlie-kirk-1236374150/
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Yet Another Example of Fascist Behavior
Demoted replied to K-9's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
Its ok, the right is destroying themselves from the inside out. Trump could never hold it together it's how he lost the 2020 election. No matter how much facts and history they try to delete it won't change the fact that they are one step from being a nazi fascist. You just need to out vote the Low IQ easily brainwashed people still supporting a disgusting human being. Once the left controls everything again they can reinstate all the history and facts back. No matter how much Trump tries to destroy America it can all be undone by just changing leaders. -
Thoughts After the Death of Charlie Kirk
SABRES 0311 replied to Taro T's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
This is stuff people put on their social media accounts. Then add in platforms like LinkedIn which don't even get me started on that. My point is people put a lot of information about themselves on the internet that doesn't need to be there. For example, why would anyone put their current city and birthday on FB? And of course, as you mentioned apps like Been Verified and others that are a one stop shop. In total you have people posting crazy stuff on FB then wonder how they get in trouble when they feel the need to post their entire life on multiple platforms. My advice would be not to post every waking moment as a picture, remove the metadata before posting it, remove things like where you currently and formerly lived, and remove who you currently and previously worked for. It's not to enable these whacked out posts. Its cyber hygiene. Disable ports 22, 23, and 3389 on your home computer, disable guest accounts on your PC, only have one admin account, and don't allow visitors to connect to your router, even family. If that weird uncle has a virus or worm on his iPhone and connects to your router you better hope that free antivirus software contains it. Ok I went on a tangent there. Edit: to be clear I don’t dox people nor do I recommend doing it. Aggregating someone’s PII and putting it on the open internet can be a violation of the Privacy Act and HIPAA. It also endangers innocent people. -
Thoughts After the Death of Charlie Kirk
Hank replied to Taro T's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
Do you use beenverified or something different? -
Yet Another Example of Fascist Behavior
K-9 replied to K-9's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
Yep. These lying pukes make Goebbels look like a rank amateur. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5507682-doj-removes-far-right-extremism-study/ -
Thoughts After the Death of Charlie Kirk
SABRES 0311 replied to Taro T's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
I’ve seen so many accounts where they post the weirdest stuff and have their employer, previous employers, home of record, spouse, and current city in their bio. Then you have the ones who post pictures of every second of their lives without removing the metadata. Same ones consider themselves content creators and influencers 😅 Then there’s the ones who use the same username across platforms where some require you to add your DoB. A simple open search gets you their DoB, PoB, city/state, immediate family, current/former address and phone number. -
Thoughts After the Death of Charlie Kirk
Hank replied to Taro T's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
I believe this is one of our biggest problems in society today. There's no accountability with anonymity. I believe people wouldn't be so nasty if their user name and avatar were what is on their driver's license, passport or state/school ID. -
Thoughts After the Death of Charlie Kirk
K-9 replied to Taro T's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
Imho, the only hope for a shift is for people to get outside their safety bubbles, educate themselves, know the difference between information and opinion, and avail themselves to the numerous honest news sources that are readily available on that same internet. -
Thoughts After the Death of Charlie Kirk
LTS replied to Taro T's topic in The Oval Office (Politics)'s Topics
I agree. This is a natural byproduct I think of the Internet. Not that I've studied things but it seems logical that throughout history when there is an invention that brings large groups of people together who, until then, had been separated the difference of cultural norms will cause great friction. The Internet opened most of the world to instant communication as it has evolved. It is easier than ever to find people who agree with you or be influenced by others so that you agree with them. The traditional societal norms are not there to inhibit that behavior as it might have done in the past. Tack on perceived anonymity and certainly the safety of distance between those attacking and being attacked and it sets the stage for the behaviors we see today. Because corporations reflect the desire of the people they pick up on it and it snowballs. So, we have sensationalistic marketing, news, etc. That grows into even worse behaviors and here we are. I just hope there is a shift because the escalation is ramping up exponentially. -
Robert Arnold is one of my favorite youtubers. Here’s a couple nuggets worth watching.