spndnchz Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Never cross the vegetables!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 https://www.tsn.ca/wild-acquire-d-hunt-from-golden-knights-1.1245317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Dudley Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 I know this is a trade thread however we have all seen how bad our PP has been and if Jbot doesn't want to use his draft capital for more talent then dad gummit why can't he improve his coaching with something like this... https://unionandblue.com/2019/01/21/columbus-blue-jackets-hire-martin-st-louis-special-teams-consultant/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, North Buffalo said: So you’re saying the value of the pick goes down as the draft number increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: So you’re saying the value of the pick goes down as the draft number increases. Technically, I think Sean Tierney is the one saying that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, SABRES 0311 said: So you’re saying the value of the pick goes down as the draft number increases. 1 hour ago, Weave said: Technically, I think Sean Tierney is the one saying that. He should change his name to Captain Obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 What interested me about the graph was two fold, not his analysis, where the drop off occurs and the fact that he is averaging over years without giving us standard deviation and variability. Might need to confirm again, not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 We should try to get Morgan Frost from Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Come to papa Ghostman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jame Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 17 hours ago, North Buffalo said: Looking at that chart... and ask yourself if there is much difference between spending a 2nd, 3rd, Pu on Skinner vs a 1st, 4th, Malone on Eric Staal.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jame Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: We should try to get Morgan Frost from Philly. What does an offer from Buffalo that peaks Philly's interest look like, in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, WildCard said: Come to papa Ghostman What are you willing to give up? Mittlestadt? Guhle? Both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, inkman said: What are you willing to give up? Mittlestadt? Guhle? Both? Guhle and picks. Not sure that would do it, but Mitts is untouchable for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, jame said: Looking at that chart... and ask yourself if there is much difference between spending a 2nd, 3rd, Pu on Skinner vs a 1st, 4th, Malone on Eric Staal.... Skinner is 26 and a guy you’d like to add to your core. Staal is 34. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: We should try to get Morgan Frost from Philly. I did not know who this was, but I do now. If Philly is trading everyone it would probably be a rebuild, and a 19 year old star prospect likely isn't on the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, jame said: What does an offer from Buffalo that peaks Philly's interest look like, in your opinion? For Morgan Frost? Definitely a first round pick at that point. Probably that and something else. Don't know how much they value Frost. If Couturier is available, a 1st, prospect, player. I think you are talking a good prospect to add in there. Not sure who they could want. See, I am not against trading a 1st, I am against trading 1 for a rental or an old guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, WildCard said: Guhle and picks. Not sure that would do it, but Mitts is untouchable for me Like a kid at Neverland, Mitts is definitely touchable in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, inkman said: Like a kid at Neverland, Mitts is definitely touchable in my book. He's going to be a star. And, especially considering our sht forward (and especially, center) depth, Mitts is pretty crucial going forward; if he doesn't hit/significantly improve next year, we're kinda ***** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, inkman said: Like a kid at Neverland, Mitts is definitely touchable in my book. Who are you replacing him with next year? There isn't a center in the org that has his potential. I would be hesitant to trade a center for a defender. This team has all the lefty defenders already. Also Casey has 6 less points than Ghost this season. Ghost is in season 4, Casey is in season 1. I wouldn't do that trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jame Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, dudacek said: Skinner is 26 and a guy you’d like to add to your core. Staal is 34. I'm just talking about the cost.... The norm around here is "oh my god, no way am I trading a 1st" Reality is a late 1st results in little tangible draft difference than an early-mid 2nd+3rd 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: For Morgan Frost? Definitely a first round pick at that point. Probably that and something else. Don't know how much they value Frost. If Couturier is available, a 1st, prospect, player. I think you are talking a good prospect to add in there. Not sure who they could want. See, I am not against trading a 1st, I am against trading 1 for a rental or an old guy. Frost would cost Mittelstadt Couturier would cost Mittelstadt, 1st, + Frost is viewed as a top 10 "not yet in the NHL" prospect... he's equivalent to how Mittelstadt was viewed last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, jame said: I'm just talking about the cost.... The norm around here is "oh my god, no way am I trading a 1st" Reality is a late 1st results in little tangible draft difference than an early-mid 2nd+3rd There's a pretty solid reason for that 1) We have no prospect pool. 2) The expansion draft 3) We will have to pay guys like Skinner, Eichel, Dahlin, and possibly Mitts; 1st round picks give you cheap talent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, jame said: I'm just talking about the cost.... The norm around here is "oh my god, no way am I trading a 1st" Reality is a late 1st results in little tangible draft difference than an early-mid 2nd+3rd I don’t understand what you mean by “I’m just talking about the cost.” You can say “what’s the difference” between what they gave for Skinner and your proposal for Staal without considering the asset you’re targeting. That’s not how this works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, Brawndo said: So Couturier, Voracek and Ghost are all available? Get on the damn phone. Guhle, Mitts, Nylander and two firsts for the lot of em. Maybe have to include okposo to make salaries work. I realize Voracek is older and probably has peaked. The deal is really for Couturier and Ghost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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