Thorny Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 true but you need a 4th center for tonight. both guys who could potentially fill that spot (ERod and Josefson) are hurt. Griffith could have. Does this mean that the Seth Griffith experiment is nearing it’s conclusion? Doesn't seem to be getting much ice time lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Does this mean that the Seth Griffith experiment is nearing it’s conclusion? He is an AHL player, waive him when ERod comes back. Hopefully he clears because he can help out the Amerks. Actually, an interesting question is who gets waived when Bogo returns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 He is an AHL player, waive him when ERod comes back. Hopefully he clears because he can help out the Amerks. Actually, an interesting question is who gets waived when Bogo returns? Tennyson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Tennyson. probably but he is avg 17 mins a night. Gorges gets about 14 mins. Could they bury Gorges to the minors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Bailey I think has to go back because he's the ir call up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Bailey I think has to go back because he's the ir call up It's only emergency call ups that HAVE to be the one sent back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 @JourdonLaBarber With Zemgus Girgensons & Jacob Josefson absent, Sam Reinhart is back at center at #Sabres practice: Kane-Eichel-Pominville Bailey-O'Reilly-Okposo Pouliot-Reinhart-Griffith Moulson-Larsson-Nolan @Matt_Bove Ryan Vinz, who works at @HARBORCTR is skating with the #Sabres as the second goalie. He dressed as a backup for Sabres a few years ago @Matt_Bove Also missing from #Sabres practice: Bogosian Gorges Girgensons Josefson @BillHoppeNHL Girgensons, Josefson, Gorges and Lehner absent from practice today. #Sabres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Well... I like the idea of Bailey with the slow-starting, slow-skating good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Well... I like the idea of Bailey with the slow-starting, slow-skating good players. I don't like him on the left and how the hell are the other two going to keep up with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 In case you're keeping track. A few weeks ago I wrote how I thought Housley was trying to match the 4th line against the opposing teams second, trying to give the Reinhart line more opportunity. Yesterday I looked at what's called the htmlreport, and decided I was wrong. The lines match up O'Reilly vs 1, Eichel vs 2, Reinhart vs 3, and 4 vs 4. I don't hate that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 As far as Bailey, Eichel had very good points with Bailey in extremely limited time last season, I think that's how the lineup will shake out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) @Matt_Bove Ryan Vinz, who works at @HARBORCTR is skating with the #Sabres as the second goalie. He dressed as a backup for Sabres a few years ago Is Lehner hurt? :unsure: Edited October 19, 2017 by Doohickie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 WC said Lehner didn't practice today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 I don't like him on the left and how the hell are the other two going to keep up with him? I think that's kinda the idea: he can provide the speed on the rush and get in on the forecheck in a way they can't. Don't know that they think the same game, but it's worth a shot. Don't know what the reluctance to team Bailey and Reinhart is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 In case you're keeping track. A few weeks ago I wrote how I thought Housley was trying to match the 4th line against the opposing teams second, trying to give the Reinhart line more opportunity. Yesterday I looked at what's called the htmlreport, and decided I was wrong. The lines match up O'Reilly vs 1, Eichel vs 2, Reinhart vs 3, and 4 vs 4. How much of that is Phil versus the home coach getting last change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 How much of that is Phil versus the home coach getting last change? That's a really fair point. We have only seen him at home twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 sorry about that, I wasn't wrong, so I deleted the previous post. I had a bug in the software. This is how the first game was in 5-5. I use the amount of power play time your opponents get as the metric. So you'll see here in game 1 vs Montreal, the fourth line got hard minutes as a method of giving Reinhart easy minutes (the reason Beaulieu is listed twice is once is the goaltender(it's a long story) I'm not sure which is which, though the goaltender probably sits toward the middle of the list) POULIOT 10.74 O'REILLY 10.17 OKPOSO 9.97 BEAULIEU8.38 SCANDELLA7.96 TENNYSON7.81 RISTOLAINEN7.31 BEAULIEU7.12 NOLAN6.66 JOSEFSON6.65 LARSSON6.64 KANE6.14 EICHEL5.83 POMINVILLE5.71 ANTIPIN4.98 MCCABE4.97 REINHART4.80 GRIFFITH4.38 GIRGENSONS4.23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 sorry about that, I wasn't wrong, so I deleted the previous post. I had a bug in the software. This is how the first game was in 5-5. I use the amount of power play time your opponents get as the metric. So you'll see here in game 1 vs Montreal, the fourth line got hard minutes as a method of giving Reinhart easy minutes (the reason Beaulieu is listed twice is once is the goaltender(it's a long story) I'm not sure which is which, though the goaltender probably sits toward the middle of the list) POULIOT 10.74 O'REILLY 10.17 OKPOSO 9.97 BEAULIEU8.38 SCANDELLA7.96 TENNYSON7.81 RISTOLAINEN7.31 BEAULIEU7.12 NOLAN6.66 JOSEFSON6.65 LARSSON6.64 KANE6.14 EICHEL5.83 POMINVILLE5.71 ANTIPIN4.98 MCCABE4.97 REINHART4.80 GRIFFITH4.38 GIRGENSONS4.23 I'm missing something. What do the numbers mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) game 2 against the islanders, and please remember I'm writing code, so I might once again be wrong.. This is an away game, so notice how Reinhart gets a much tougher matchup GIRGENSONS9.61 O'REILLY9.28 RISTOLAINEN9.00 GRIFFITH8.79 BEAULIEU8.51 REINHART8.37 OKPOSO8.20 LARSSON8.11 MCCABE7.95 JOHNSON7.55 BEAULIEU7.54 KANE7.44 EICHEL7.31 POMINVILLE7.17 ANTIPIN6.76 SCANDELLA6.75 POULIOT6.04 TENNYSON6.01 JOSEFSON5.59 MOULSON5.52 the metric, eleven, is the amount of average power play time your opponent EDIT FORWARDS gets. game 3 against NJ has really bizarre numbers, so I'm going to look at this some before I waste a bunch of paper posting this Edited October 19, 2017 by rakish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Bill Hoppe @BillHoppeNHL 1h1 hour ago More #Sabres lines: Kane-Eichel-Pominville Bailey-ROR-Okposo Pouliot-Reinhart-Griffith Moulson-Larsson-Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 we need Zemgus healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 game 2 against the islanders, and please remember I'm writing code, so I might once again be wrong.. This is an away game, so notice how Reinhart gets a much tougher matchup GIRGENSONS9.61 O'REILLY9.28 RISTOLAINEN9.00 GRIFFITH8.79 BEAULIEU8.51 REINHART8.37 OKPOSO8.20 LARSSON8.11 MCCABE7.95 JOHNSON7.55 BEAULIEU7.54 KANE7.44 EICHEL7.31 POMINVILLE7.17 ANTIPIN6.76 SCANDELLA6.75 POULIOT6.04 TENNYSON6.01 JOSEFSON5.59 MOULSON5.52 the metric, eleven, is the amount of average power play time your opponent EDIT FORWARDS gets. game 3 against NJ has really bizarre numbers, so I'm going to look at this some before I waste a bunch of paper posting this So Girgensons 9.61 means that he spent 9.61 minutes killing penalties? These numbers seem huge for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 opp So Girgensons 9.61 means that he spent 9.61 minutes killing penalties? These numbers seem huge for that. I think it's opponents' forwards pp time. So Girgs is out 5v5 against the forwards on the opponent PP more often than anyone else. The idea (I think) is he's out against the offensive players and therefore harder matchups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 So Girgensons 9.61 means that he spent 9.61 minutes killing penalties? These numbers seem huge for that. It think it means he spent 9.61 even strength minutes playing against guys who play on the opponent's PP. He's using PP use as a way to measure the most offensively gifted forwards. Or at least that's how I'm reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) average power play time of your opponent forwards. Therefore, if you are on the ice with Crosby (who might get 6 minutes/game), Malkin (who might get 4 minutes/game), Rust (who might get 1 min/game), your opponent forward power play time would be 11 for that moment. Dudacek and MattPie have it right I think Edited October 19, 2017 by rakish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts