LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 This comes from a discussion in the draft thread about ranking players and BPA. I am not sure if this will work as a thread. The idea being that we debate and rank all the current members of the Sabres roster. This excludes Mittelstadt and Nylander or any prospect that did not play at least 20 NHL games last season. So Bailey for example can be included. We can use any criteria we want for this but who is the best, 2nd best, 3rd best and so on. This is the best going into this upcoming season. To start we can do the obvious one. Jack Eichel is the best player on the Sabres he is #1. He skates better, shoots better, passes better then any other member of the team. He is going to be an offensive force this season. Due to his injury last year he isn't getting the credit he should. Also he isn't a Maple Leaf and they are always going to get all the hype. Jack's the best player on the team. If you were drafting this team only, Jack would be #1. Then who is #2? Or do you disagree with #1? Who is #3 and so on? Where do you rank Kane? Is Risto in the top 3? Let's figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Eichel RoR Okposo Risto Reinhart Kane . . . . . Gorges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I put Kane ahead of Okposo. Eichel RoR Kane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Eichel RoR Okposo Risto Reinhart Kane . . . . . Gorges I put Kane ahead of Okposo. Eichel RoR Kane Is Kane the 3rd best player on the team? If so we need to re-sign him. I am not quite there. I think due to Okposo's overall game Kane is just below him. I would however put Kane above Reinhart. Eichel ROR Okposo Risto Kane Reinhart At least that is my first thought going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Gorges is definetly at or near the bottom... though Sabres need some scorers so along with him I'd put Deslaurier unless you are excluding unsigned guys too. Edited June 26, 2017 by North Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Gorges is definetly at or near the bottom... though Sabres need some scorers so along with him I'd put Deslaurier unless you are excluding unsigned guys too. Nope anyone on the roster right now, signed or unsigned that played 20 games last season. So Baloo is also in consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) LIger, I was going to do this through a poll. Basically, start with five or six candidates, ask people to vote for their favourite and post the name of the player they think should be added to the poll. After a few days, you reset the poll, removing the winner and adding the player nominated the most times. Rinse and repeat. The ranking builds throughout the hockey dog days of summer. Also might be handy to include a roster list in the opening post. Edited June 26, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 LIger, I was going to do this through a poll. Basically, start with five or six candidates, ask people to vote for their favourite and post the name of the player they think should be added to the poll. After a few days, you reset the poll, removing the winner and adding the player nominated the most times. Rinse and repeat. The ranking builds throughout the hockey dog days of summer. Also might be handy to include a roster list in the opening post. Set it up! I like your plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Is this in a vacuum or do we factor in things like age, contract, and potential to get better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Is this in a vacuum or do we factor in things like age, contract, and potential to get better? I think we should do a cross sectional study. So ranking them for day one of the 2017 season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Gorges is definetly at or near the bottom... though Sabres need some scorers so along with him I'd put Deslaurier unless you are excluding unsigned guys too. I was thinking Deslauriers was worst as well. Any value to moving Deslauriers back to defense (7th or 8th d-man) full time and letting Housley work with him. He's pretty mobile and brings some toughness that the Sabres will miss without him. And cheap as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) I was thinking Deslauriers was worst as well. Any value to moving Deslauriers back to defense (7th or 8th d-man) full time and letting Housley work with him. He's pretty mobile and brings some toughness that the Sabres will miss without him. And cheap as well. I like innovative ideas and if Housley could pull that off it'd be awesome. Edited June 26, 2017 by North Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I was thinking Deslauriers was worst as well. Any value to moving Deslauriers back to defense (7th or 8th d-man) full time and letting Housley work with him. He's pretty mobile and brings some toughness that the Sabres will miss without him. And cheap as well. D-Lo is worse than Gorges. For sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I would rather have Des on the ice than Gorges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Gorges is a better defenseman than Des would be, and I wrinkle my nose equally when they're on the ice as D and F respectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I would rather have Des on the ice than Gorges You're crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Gorges is definetly at or near the bottom... though Sabres need some scorers so along with him I'd put Deslaurier unless you are excluding unsigned guys too. Des scores as often as Gorges completes a pass so would you prefer percentages or tries as a criteria??? Also have a flat out who's better without taking on $ or some magic chrystal ball some might want to use. Edited June 26, 2017 by jsb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I have ROR above Eichel for the last season played. Especially after Jack laid down in the stretch. But Jack *should* flip that this season. D-lo is my worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 At the present moment: O'Reilly Eichel Okposo Ristolainen Reinhart Kane McCabe Future projection: Eichel Reinhart O'Reilly Ristolainen Okposo Kane McCabe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) 1a.) Jack Eichel 1b.) Ryan O'Reilly 3.) Kyle Okposo 4.) Rasmus Ristolainen 5.) Evander Kane 6.) Sam Reinhart 7.) Robin Lehner 8.) Jake McCabe 9.) Johan Larsson 10.) Marcus Foligno 11.) Nathan Beaulieu 12.) Zemgus Girgensons 13.) Evan Rodrigues 14.) Nick Baptiste 15.) Matt Moulson 16.) Taylor Fedun 17.) Zach Bogosian 18.) Justin Falk 19.) Justin Bailey 20.) Hudson Fasching 21.) Casey Nelson 22.) Tyler Ennis 23.) Josh Gorges 24.) Nic Deslauriers Edited to include Taylor Fedun since we signed him. Plenty of players have potential to jump or fall off. Edited June 26, 2017 by Randall Flagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Wow you really hate Ennis, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Wow you really hate Ennis, huh? Nah, dude was one of my favorites for years. He just really f*cking sucks now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) I would rather have Des on the ice than Gorges Naw, Gimme Gorgeous Gorges. Edited June 26, 2017 by Doohickie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Nah, dude was one of my favorites for years. He just really f*cking sucks now. Even so, I really can't see Ennis below 16 or so. He needs to be up near 8-10 to be worthwhile on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Even so, I really can't see Ennis below 16 or so. He needs to be up near 8-10 to be worthwhile on the team. I wasn't focused so much on the number as I was the idea that the only worse forward we had was Deslauriers, which also is probably disagreed with by many so that's cool too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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