Hank Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Hank, Will you be posting the lines the day of the game? Yes. The line is not out yet, I'll be posting the line first thing in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Ok good, because I just saw that Price isn't playing and now I want to change my bet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Ok good, because I just saw that Price isn't playing and now I want to change my bet... Yeah but the line will be less favorable now, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Yeah but the line will be less favorable now, too. Price out, Okposo and O'Reilly out. The line might be even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Price out, Okposo and O'Reilly out. The line might be even. What I mean is, the line will be less close to favoring Montreal than it would have been if it were set an hour ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Yeah but the line will be less favorable now, too. True. I guess I have to work out how the lines work in hockey. Football -3 means you have to win by more than 3 to beat the spread. I don't get the -167 and +209 stuff in hockey instinctually. Detroit +105 +1.5(-270) Over 5.5 (+115)Colorado -125 -1.5 (+230) Under 5.5 (-135) The home team will always be listed on the bottom. In the first column to the right of the team names you see a +105 next to Detroit and a -125 next to Colorado. This represents the money line if you take a team to win straight up. If you pick Detroit, your winnings would be higher. +105 means that if you bet $10 on Detroit to win straight up and you win your bet, you will get paid $10.50 in profit. If you take Colorado to win straight up, you will have to bet $12.50 to make $10.00 profit since their money line is -125. So you do bet the games straight up (usually) its just the odds you get on betting it. So in this case, I'd still want to put money on the Sabres if I think they win, because that's the only way to make money. The odds might determine whether I want to bet at all, but not for whom I would bet. Edited October 12, 2016 by sabills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 True. I guess I have to work out how the lines work in hockey. Football -3 means you have to win by more than 3 to beat the spread. I don't get the -167 and +209 stuff in hockey instinctually. Read the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I read it before, but couldn't make hide nor hair of it; re-reading it now after that primer makes more sense. So let me see if I get this right. If the line is Sabres +200, and I bet on the Sabres, and they win I make 100 bucks. If the line is Sabres -200, I would have to bet 200 in order to make 100 if they win. is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I read it before, but couldn't make hide nor hair of it; re-reading it now after that primer makes more sense. So let me see if I get this right. If the line is Sabres +200, and I bet on the Sabres, and they win I make 100 bucks. If the line is Sabres -200, I would have to bet 200 in order to make 100 if they win. is that right? Almost. You got the "-" right. For the "+" you win that number for every $100 bet, in your example if you bet $300 on the Sabres at +200 you would win $600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Almost. You got the "-" right. For the "+" you win that number for every $100 bet, in your example if you bet $300 on the Sabres at +200 you would win $600 And you get your stake back, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 And you get your stake back, too. Right. If you have 2K, bet $200 on a +200 money line and win, you now have 2400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Are we only allowed to bet on Sabres games? Or all NHL games this week? Edited October 12, 2016 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Are we only allowed to bet on Sabres games? Or all NHL games this week? Sabres games only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastajoe Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I'll try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I'd like to give this a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I think we need to wait until either Hank posts the lines or we agree when the lines are final from the site, otherwise we could all be wagering differing "units" as the lines move. I am slow to learn. (I love numbers; I'm not a wagerer). I rescind my bet and will await Hank's official posting of the line! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 It actually was really fun a couple of seasons ago.... It's simple, but at the same time confusing, by mid-season (when eichel is back) we should all have a good grasp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Sabres - 105 Habs - 115 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 They're both favorites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 They're both favorites? I think technically the Habs are the favorite. It's not that uncommon for both teams to have a "-", it's the same in the Bruins / blue jackets game. Again, the money line is from betdsi.com. Anyone can see it if they wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I think it may be safe to sit this one out, as I have no idea what to expect. I get burned last time around when we upset the isles, wanna stay in this thing as long as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I think technically the Habs are the favorite. It's not that uncommon for both teams to have a "-", it's the same in the Bruins / blue jackets game. Again, the money line is from betdsi.com. Anyone can see it if they wish. Interesting. I don't remember having ever seen that, but I guess it makes sense for the first game of the year to not have a favorite. It's basically a pick'em game where the house makes sure it can win more than it loses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 One unit on Buffalo, I believe I'm betting 105 to win 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 IIRC when we did this during the tank the Sabres weren't a favorite once all year. Now that they are competitive it will create a new dynamic in this contest. One unit on Sabres tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Interesting. I don't remember having ever seen that, but I guess it makes sense for the first game of the year to not have a favorite. It's basically a pick'em game where the house makes sure it can win more than it loses. Lines usually aren't reciprocal, if that's the word I'm looking for. It's how the house makes its money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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