PASabreFan Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Not Eichel. The cream is working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) I thought it was obvious that Ristos defensive struggles were holding Moulson back last season. If Risto can improve defensively with a 5 year deal, Moulson should thrive offensively.... or continue to struggle because its a game for faster players now and he's no a very good skater.pi, I love this post. You, the players, the contract, the tongue in cheek analysis. I voted Reinhart. I'd not be surprised, but fall short of predicting, more points than Jack. I love the evolution. Edited October 9, 2016 by N'eo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Not Eichel. The cream is working.Plus he won't be close to that ice cream freezer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Plus he won't be close to that ice cream freezer. Good point! I think he said the Snickers was his favorite. You know what they say about chocolate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I picked mccabe, mostly just because we need the blue line to step up big and we gotta get lucky eventually, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I picked mccabe, mostly just because we need the blue line to step up big and we gotta get lucky eventually, right? Do you also apply this logic to lottery tickets? :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I wonder if Jack's injury changes a few votes? My top 3 right now after camp and based on Jack's injury are Reinhart, McCabe and Fasching. I think Reinhart and Fasching get the most opportunities to pick up the slack and I think McCabe is going to be this team's best all around D by season's end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I wonder if Jack's injury changes a few votes? My top 3 right now after camp and based on Jack's injury are Reinhart, McCabe and Fasching. I think Reinhart and Fasching get the most opportunities to pick up the slack and I think McCabe is going to be this team's best all around D by season's end. Don't get me wrong, I love bold predictions, but this belief combined with your cynical view of Risto confuses the hell out of me :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Don't get me wrong, I love bold predictions, but this belief combined with your cynical view of Risto confuses the hell out of me :lol: Don't be confused. I think Risto is an excellent offensive defenseman. While I believe he'll get better defensively, it won't ever be his strong suit. I don't see him as the no. 1 penalty killer or the guy you give massive D zone starts in critical situations. On the other hand, I think McCabe grows into those defensive roles, but over the next few years he adds more offense. I see eventually him adding 30 pts of offense to his game to go with excellent defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Risto isn't good at defense despite his playing pretty darn well defensively against brutal matchups, yet McCabe will be better despite the fact that he struggled defensively on the 2nd and 3rd pair last year? I hope McCabe takes a huge step forward but I can't envision a world where he leaps Risto defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I went with Lehner mostly because I need it to be true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I went with Lehner mostly because I need it to be true... Agreed. But I picked Jake McCabe. I think he's going to surprise people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I either picked Larsson or Reinhart, don't remember which. Does it really count as breaking out if Larsson solidifies himself as a fine 3rd liner like I think he will? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I wonder if Jack's injury changes a few votes? My top 3 right now after camp and based on Jack's injury are Reinhart, McCabe and Fasching. I think Reinhart and Fasching get the most opportunities to pick up the slack and I think McCabe is going to be this team's best all around D by season's end. I really like McCabe too. He turned it up offensively at the end of last season and he's the best skater they have on the blueline. If he keeps that going he could land on the top pairing in short order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I really like McCabe too. He turned it up offensively at the end of last season and he's the best skater they have on the blueline. If he keeps that going he could land on the top pairing in short order.I don't think McCabe is better than Risto at skating. Is he better than Kulikov? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) I don't think McCabe is better than Risto at skating. Is he better than Kulikov? I disagree. McCabe is better than both, quicker, more agile, higher top end speed. He just needs to improve his decision making, which comes with experience. Edited October 13, 2016 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I think Risto is better at skating than McCabe as well, but the difference isn't large. Kulikov is better than both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I disagree. McCabe is better than both, quicker, more agile, higher top end speed. He just needs to improve his decision making, which comes with experience.I have not seen this.I think Risto is better at skating than McCabe as well, but the difference isn't large. Kulikov is better than both.Kulikov is a good skater? Nice. I'm excited to finally get a look at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 In terms of power and straight line speed Bogo is better than all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 In terms of power and straight line speed Bogo is better than all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) zemgus.pdf It will be Zemgus. (att: Zemgus from his first album, "Meet the Zemgus.") Edited October 14, 2016 by Marvelo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 In terms of power and straight line speed Bogo is better than all of them. True, but he lacks quickness, it takes him about 18 strides to get up to full speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Moulson scores 40 fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 A lot of talk about who belongs on the top D pairing. My question is: Do you want your best two defensemen on the first D pairing? Maybe you put the best D on the first pairing, and the second best on the second pairing, and you make the other half of each pair a complementary player (like last year- flashy Risto and stay-at-home Gorges, although I'm not advocating Gorges as a top pairing guy going forward). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 A lot of talk about who belongs on the top D pairing. My question is: Do you want your best two defensemen on the first D pairing? Maybe you put the best D on the first pairing, and the second best on the second pairing, and you make the other half of each pair a complementary player (like last year- flashy Risto and stay-at-home Gorges, although I'm not advocating Gorges as a top pairing guy going forward). Unless you have a very special case (like Anaheim w/ Pronger & Niedermayer circa 2007) or Doughty paired w/ McNabb more recently, yes you typically want your best 2 eating up 24 minutes against the other team's best. Give your 2nd pair 20 minutes & put a 4 F PP unit out there & you can give Gorges & (blank) 12-13 minutes a night. Roll your forwards properly & you can weather the 2-3 shifts / game they get caught against the other team's top line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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