Thorny Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I just vomited In a negative way? I thought it looked pretty darn good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Girgenson Eichel Fasching Tkachuk ROR Reinhart Kane Larsson Foligno Deslaurier Schaller McGinn Gionta Moulson Fowler Ristolainen McCabe/Guhle Bogosian Gorges/McCabe Pysyk Franson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Girgenson Eichel Fasching Tkachuk ROR Reinhart Kane Larsson Foligno Deslaurier Schaller McGinn Gionta Moulson Fowler Ristolainen McCabe/Guhle Bogosian Gorges/McCabe Pysyk Franson Neither of the bolded will be NHL ready next season. Laine, Matthews, and Poolparty are the only three likely to make the jump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 It would be interesting to know who is furthest ahead in their development between Fasching, Bailey and Baptiste. Personally I think Bailey has the highest upside long-term but I could see Baptiste, who is well regarded for his defensive side, being ready to play in NHL (3rd line) the soonest. Im hoping the Sabres can sign Fasching as soon as his NCAA season is over and get him playing pro hockey this year. Neither of the bolded will be NHL ready next season. Laine, Matthews, and Poolparty are the only three likely to make the jump completely agree and no way Kane is a 3rd line winger nor would he be behind Fasching or Tkachuk on the depth chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ18 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Agreed^ I think Rob Ray said it last night, Kane needs to take a deep breath before he just rips one ten feet wide. The guy also hits an ungodly amount of posts. The shots are bound to fall sooner or later right? I haven't had a chance to follow much of Bailey Baptiste and Fasching. Are they really NHL ready next year? and top 6 ready? I find that hard to believe. One question I have: Are the ROR-Reinhart and Girgs-Eichel combos here to stay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I just like Kane with Foligno, those two could create some havoc with Larsson. Also, I know it's a bit of a stretch projecting Tkachuk and Fasching into top 6 right away but it happens every year. Duclair and Domi weren't expected to play in the NHL yet but look at them. All I know is that if th e Sabres enter into next year with the same top 6-9 then we can expect the same results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I just like Kane with Foligno, those two could create some havoc with Larsson. Also, I know it's a bit of a stretch projecting Tkachuk and Fasching into top 6 right away but it happens every year. Duclair and Domi weren't expected to play in the NHL yet but look at them. All I know is that if th e Sabres enter into next year with the same top 6-9 then we can expect the same results. Top 6 isn't the problem. I look at guys like Fasching, Bailey, Baptiste, Hurley, Karabacek, etc... someday as potential 3rd liners who can contribute offensively. Guys like Foligno and Larsson belong the 4th line if at all in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Top 6 isn't the problem. I look at guys like Fasching, Bailey, Baptiste, Hurley, Karabacek, etc... someday as potential 3rd liners who can contribute offensively. Guys like Foligno and Larsson belong the 4th line if at all in the NHL.Those statements contradict one another Our top 6 is a huge problem, we only have 3 of them, maybe 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Those statements contradict one another Our top 6 is a huge problem, we only have 3 of them, maybe 4 O'Reilly, Kane, Eichel, Reinhart, Ennis, Girgensons who doesn't belong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I can see Murray adding between 2-4 forwards and 2-3 defense to next seasons lineup through our prospects, trades, free agency and the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I can see Murray adding between 2-4 forwards and 2-3 defense to next seasons lineup through our prospects, trades, free agency and the draft. If he wants this team to be good, he'll need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I just like Kane with Foligno, those two could create some havoc with Larsson. Also, I know it's a bit of a stretch projecting Tkachuk and Fasching into top 6 right away but it happens every year. Duclair and Domi weren't expected to play in the NHL yet but look at them. All I know is that if th e Sabres enter into next year with the same top 6-9 then we can expect the same results. Duclair and Domi each spent 2 years after they were drafted in the CHL and were 20 years old before their rookie seasons started. Maybe Tkachuk could play in the NHL next year but its a lot to ask of a 18 year old (not named Eichel) to make that jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Top 6 isn't the problem. I look at guys like Fasching, Bailey, Baptiste, Hurley, Karabacek, etc... someday as potential 3rd liners who can contribute offensively. Guys like Foligno and Larsson belong the 4th line if at all in the NHL. Foligno has played well lately, if he can stay consistent he can be a true power forward and can be deployed in a shut down role. Heck he's been here a while but he's still young. Larsson Deslauriers and Foligno would be a great 4th line but I see a spot for Schaller there starting next year so what to do with Larsson? If he wants this team to be good, he'll need to.Pretty much Duclair and Domi each spent 2 years after they were drafted in the CHL and were 20 years old before their rookie seasons started. Maybe Tkachuk could play in the NHL next year but its a lot to ask of a 18 year old (not named Eichel) to make that jump.You know more than I do about the young kids, Tkachuk was just a sexy name for my lineup. I'd love a crack at him, Matthews,Puljujarvi or Laine to be honest. Any of em would add instant value IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 O'Reilly, Kane, Eichel, Reinhart, Ennis, Girgensons who doesn't belong? On a contending team? Possibly Kane, Ennis, and Girgensons. If the top-6 wasn't a problem, this team wouldn't be in 29th place. Even teams with merely a competent top-6 and no depth still manage to be fringe playoff teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) O'Reilly, Kane, Eichel, Reinhart, Ennis, Girgensons who doesn't belong? The first 4 belong, with Kane being the maybe. I still think he is a top 6 player, but he's injured frequently, and fairly stupid, so we'll see. Edited January 27, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 One question I have: Are the ROR-Reinhart and Girgs-Eichel combos here to stay? I certainly hope so, except for brief times when Eich and Samson play together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Let's say fortune smiles and we nab both Yandle and Boedker in UFA, and some get their wish and we keep McGinn, and we draft a Fin. Let's also say that Bylsma is willing to shift Reinhart to center full-time, while wanting to keep his 3rd line as the defensive line. O'Reilly-Eichel- Boedker-Reinhart- Kane-Larsson-Gionta (I do love what this line has done this season) Nobody Cares except for complaining about Moulson wasting cap space Yandle-Ristolainen McCabe-Pysyk Gorges-Bogosian (I don't think they'd both be down here, but I hate Bogosian and refuse to slot him above Pysyk on principle) For the forwards we have two RW spots to divide up between Ennis, Girgensons, McGinn, and the Fin. Let's say the Fin stays in Europe, we still have two spots for three players. My first instinct is to put Girgensons with Reinhart and Boedker because that line could use some board work, and Ennis up top, but that really leaves McGinn as the odd man out. Under this scenario, I think a trade is borderline necessary to maximize the roster--either to bolster the D or to get a better fit among the forwards, with Ennis the obvious trade bait. But what if a beneficial trade isn't there to be had? My preferred option at that point would be to shift Gionta to the 4th line, and even though I don't think Bylsma would do such a thing to his captain, I like the way the lines look with that move: O'Reilly-Eichel-Ennis Boedker-Reinhart-McGinn Kane-Larsson-Girgensons Deslauriers-XXX-Gionta That's a forward group I feel pretty good about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Great write-up, True. I'll respond in more detail when I focus on this homework and finish it, but a quick glance and I'd much rather switch Girgensons and McGinn. Actually, in order on RW with those lines, I'd like Girgs, Ennis, and McGinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Great write-up, True. I'll respond in more detail when I focus on this homework and finish it, but a quick glance and I'd much rather switch Girgensons and McGinn. Actually, in order on RW with those lines, I'd like Girgs, Ennis, and McGinn If we had a different coach, I'd agree re: McGinn. I just don't think he has the defensive chops to play the 3rd line the way Bylsma uses his 3rd line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 If we had a different coach, I'd agree re: McGinn. I just don't think he has the defensive chops to play the 3rd line the way Bylsma uses his 3rd line. He's not who I'm worried about, Zemgus is. He can't play that role either, he's thrived on Eichel's line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 I've been thinking about this a bit, mostly based on the lack of chemistry in Disco Dan's combos. I think our personnel is screaming for three balanced lines, mostly because Ennis, Kane and Eichel all need to be the guy carrying the puck. What about stable pairs of: O'Reilly/Eichel Kane/Reinhart Ennis/Girgensons Then add Laine and Boedker to go with one of Larsson, Gionta, Foligno, Fasching and Moulson Mix and match the leftovers with Schaller and Delauriers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 He's not who I'm worried about, Zemgus is. He can't play that role either, he's thrived on Eichel's line And we've come full circle to why I'm not super enthusiastic about keeping McGinn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Or what about this? Girgensons Stamkos Ennis O'Reilly Eichel Laine Kane Reinhart Fasching/Gionta Deslauriers Larsson Foligno Hasn't been enough chatter on here about Stamkos, IMO. We know Murray has asked about him, is tight with Newport Sports, and isn't scared of bold moves The Sabres have the cap space, a growing rep as an organization that treats players right, and some talented youngsters to play with. If Stamkos wants to play close to home, we qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 And we've come full circle to why I'm not super enthusiastic about keeping McGinn. No , as soon as I posted that, I knew I shot myself in the foot :lol: He's a 3rd liner on this team for what we have, and unless he has a short term, the $4+m he'll get we'll be detrimental to the other contracts we need to shell out soon enough Or what about this? Girgensons Stamkos Ennis O'Reilly Eichel Laine Kane Reinhart Fasching/Gionta Deslauriers Larsson Foligno Hasn't been enough chatter on here about Stamkos, IMO. We know Murray has asked about him, is tight with Newport Sports, and isn't scared of bold moves The Sabres have the cap space, a growing rep as an organization that treats players right, and some talented youngsters to play with. If Stamkos wants to play close to home, we qualify. I want 100% nothing to do with Stamkos. Everything from production, to money, to his large presence in the locker room. He's just not a fit here, IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) I've been thinking about this a bit, mostly based on the lack of chemistry in Disco Dan's combos. I think our personnel is screaming for three balanced lines, mostly because Ennis, Kane and Eichel all need to be the guy carrying the puck. What about stable pairs of: O'Reilly/Eichel Kane/Reinhart Ennis/Girgensons Then add Laine and Boedker to go with one of Larsson, Gionta, Foligno, Fasching and Moulson Mix and match the leftovers with Schaller and Delauriers? I like where you're going conceptually, and it's something I'd be in favor of. Just don't think it's happening with Bylsma, since it didn't happen when he was in Pittsburgh and he's shown no signs of favoring that approach here. Two other things. 1) I never, ever, want to see Larsson on the wing again. On your proposed 3rd pair, he'd have to center with Girgensons on the wing. 2) Not only do I think Kane has to be the primary puck handler on his line, I think he has to be the top offensive force. Maybe I'll dig them up tomorrow to give specifics, but O'Reilly, Eichel, and Reinhart are all worse offensively when with Kane. Edited February 10, 2016 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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