nfreeman Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 I must say: I'm a bit put off by him signing his name "Deacon." It's a transparent attempt to leverage his religious position for professional gain, and it besmirches both his religious and professional groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 I must say: I'm a bit put off by him signing his name "Deacon." It's a transparent attempt to leverage his religious position for professional gain, and it besmirches both his religious and professional groups. it was a fookin' weird thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 it was a fookin' weird thing to do. By the way, good sir, if I'm Pangloss, who is he? Should we all really be examining ourselves instead of posting here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 By the way, good sir, if I'm Pangloss, who is he? Should we all really be examining ourselves instead of posting here? Haha. I'm not sure who he is. I didn't read his open letter in any detail. He's a Grade A Wingnut, is my best guess. But you? You're our PAngloss (pAngloss). Also, looking at it again. I love the idea that due process takes a natural course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Haha. I'm not sure who he is. I didn't read his open letter in any detail. He's a Grade A Wingnut, is my best guess. But you? You're our PAngloss (pAngloss). Also, looking at it again. I love the idea that due process takes a natural course. p'Angloss, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 TIL Derek Rose is accused of drugging a girl and gang raping her with his friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 TIL Derek Rose is accused of drugging a girl and gang raping her with his friends Did you read the complaint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Did you read the complaint?It happened two years ago, she claims they drugged her, she went home alone after a friend was concerned, and then they came into her hour the next morning and raped her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 It happened two years ago, she claims they drugged her, she went home alone after a friend was concerned, and then they came into her hour the next morning and raped her Not exactly, read the complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Anything going on in here? How about you JJ? any thoughts? Edited September 29, 2015 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I'll pass.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNM3OjXCN34 http://www.buzzfeed.com/kelseypjones/these-college-women-reacted-to-stories-of-campus-sexual-assa#.wkdeAbYAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 I'm sure freeman has a counter video. That was not instructive in the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 I'm sure freeman has a counter video. That was not instructive in the least. just thought it was interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 The screen cap of the linked video is prompting all manner of inappropriate rejoinders. I will refrain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Dan Herbeck, Lou Michel and Tim Graham of the Buffalo News reported "sources said doubts have emerged about the woman's allegations and make criminal prosecution highly unlikely." District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III said he is "waiting for the investigation to be completed to [his] satisfaction and to confer with the assigned prosecutor, who is on her vacation six time zones away, before announcing anything further." http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2584179-patrick-kane-under-investigation-for-rape-latest-details-comments-reaction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 That stands to ruin a lot of narratives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 For sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted November 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Thanks for the heads up. Due process is all anyone can ask or expect. Seems like it's been had here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I'm curious if they'll go forward with a civil suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Thanks for the heads up. Due process is all anyone can ask or expect. Seems like it's been had here. Problem is a gross amount of sexual assaults and rapes don't get prosecuted. The longer the process goes the less likely the prosecution goes forward. It's don;t difficult to avoid or beat a rape or sexual assault charge, especially if you have money. My hope in all of this is that this women's life hasn't been completely destroyed. There are some things in life you just can't move on from. Even if the prosecution were to move forward and end in a conviction it is less likely that this women would go on to live a reasonably normal life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Problem is a gross amount of sexual assaults and rapes don't get prosecuted. The longer the process goes the less likely the prosecution goes forward. It's don;t difficult to avoid or beat a rape or sexual assault charge, especially if you have money. My hope in all of this is that this women's life hasn't been completely destroyed. There are some things in life you just can't move on from. Even if the prosecution were to move forward and end in a conviction it is less likely that this women would go on to live a reasonably normal life. I have read and heard some things that suggest to me that it may not have happened. (I will not post this information or send it in a PM to anyone.) I have to conclude that if -- IF -- Sedita decides not even to proceed to a grand jury, that there's a real reason not to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Besides having high dollar lawyers, I don't see what having lots of money does for a criminal case. My hope in all this is that it doesn't affect the long term health of a professional sports organization, the reputation of one of its elite athletes, and the professional relationship with their sponsors. Because that's an awful lot on the line if he really didn't do anything wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Besides having high dollar lawyers, I don't see what having lots of money does for a criminal case. My hope in all this is that it doesn't affect the long term health of a professional sports organization, the reputation of one of its elite athletes, and the professional relationship with their sponsors. Because that's an awful lot on the line if he really didn't do anything wrong. 1) Quality of representation is a pretty huge advantage. Also, money allows for the defendant to fully exhaust appeals if convicted. 2) I don't see any reason why there would be permanent damage. Kobe Bryant, Ben Roethlisberger, Floyd Mayweather...just a few examples of stars who have faced accusations without any meaningful repercussions. Edit: Further to #1, prosecutors have limited resources to work with, so they have to think long and hard about going through with a case that is going to be longer and more expensive than is typical. In general prosecutors are going to want a stronger case for more well-funded defendants because the "cost" of losing is higher. In a perfect world that wouldn't matter, but resources and potential costs very much work in tandem with likelihood of conviction for prosecutorial decision making. Edited November 1, 2015 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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