Hoss Posted June 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Mike Russo, as reliable a local hockey reporter as you'll see, said GMTM had talks with Minnesota about Brodin and/or Scandella but Chuck Fletcher asked for Samson and Murray said no. If the asks of Larkin for Shattenkirk, Samson for Scandella/Brodin and a 1st and top prospect for Fowler all stand then there's simply no way these defenders get moved. I understand you ask high then negotiate a lower deal but these aren't even in the same stratosphere of what it should take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 I heard Larkin for Shattenkirk on the radio today. The prices for these guys sounds absurd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Mike Russo, as reliable a local hockey reporter as you'll see, said GMTM had talks with Minnesota about Brodin and/or Scandella but Chuck Fletcher asked for Samson and Murray said no. If the asks of Larkin for Shattenkirk, Samson for Scandella/Brodin and a 1st and top prospect for Fowler all stand then there's simply no way these defenders get moved. I understand you ask high then negotiate a lower deal but these aren't even in the same stratosphere of what it should take. Indeed. Those asking prices are absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Offer Sheet Bob Murray and Chuck Fletcher into the ECHL! :flirt: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Offer Sheet Bob Murray and Chuck Fletcher into the ECHL! :flirt: ...but sign Risto first :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Are you kidding me? Reinhart for Brodin? How about Suter for Foligno, sound good Minnesota? off. Separately, I over-value Reinhart. Here is a list of players I'd trade him for: Lindholm Josi OEL Doughty Karlsson Hedman McDavid Barkov Tarasenko Crosby Benn/Seguin Kane That's it. Separately, I'd like the Sabres to look into Ekholm from Nashville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Reinhart > Barkov for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Reinhart for Brodin. An equal value trade :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Mike Russo, as reliable a local hockey reporter as you'll see, said GMTM had talks with Minnesota about Brodin and/or Scandella but Chuck Fletcher asked for Samson and Murray said no. If the asks of Larkin for Shattenkirk, Samson for Scandella/Brodin and a 1st and top prospect for Fowler all stand then there's simply no way these defenders get moved. I understand you ask high then negotiate a lower deal but these aren't even in the same stratosphere of what it should take. I got a bunch of bids for some landscaping work this spring, a few of which were totally ridiculous coming in thousands of dollars higher than what I ultimately paid. In essence these guys were just telling me with their exorbitant quotes that they didn't need the work, but if I was willing to get butt raped then they'll be more than happy to oblige. Same thing going on here I suppose, but they should have at least asked for Eichel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 I got a bunch of bids for some landscaping work this spring, a few of which were totally ridiculous coming in thousands of dollars higher than what I ultimately paid. In essence these guys were just telling me with their exorbitant quotes that they didn't need the work, but if I was willing to get butt raped then they'll be more than happy to oblige. Same thing going on here I suppose, but they should have at least asked for Eichel. If I'm a GM I'd take the Reinhart ask (for freaking Jonas Brodin) as a sign the GM isn't interested in a good faith negotiation, and proceed to hang up the phone. I get the ask high then settle for less, but I still think some level of reasonableness should come into play with the initial ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 If I'm a GM I'd take the Reinhart ask (for freaking Jonas Brodin) as a sign the GM isn't interested in a good faith negotiation, and proceed to hang up the phone. I get the ask high then settle for less, but I still think some level of reasonableness should come into play with the initial ask. I agree with this but would add that if Fletcher didn't shop the player why not ask for the moon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 I agree with this but would add that if Fletcher didn't shop the player why not ask for the moon? Because it could potentially preclude the conversation from heading down a road where both teams may mutually benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Pierre LeBrun was on Edmonton’s TSN 1260 on Monday afternoon. On how the Edmonton Oilers’ draft results have been fairly well-received, but on if Peter Chiarelli not bringing home a top defenseman via trade should be seen as a failure, or just an acknowledgment at how difficult it is to get these things done: “Listen. He will get his defenseman. It doesn’t have to be draft weekend. Obviously there were opportunities there for Peter Chiarelli to get a deal or two done over the weekend, if for no other reason than his 4th overall pick was in place for awhile. “But there are other ways to make trades, most notably now, especially after drafting Puljujarvi – I mean, the Oilers are absolutely loaded up front. I mean, they’ve got too many top-6 options. They’re rich in one area, and not too rich elsewhere. So the way to fix your blueline will come from one of those forwards, and I have absolutely extreme confidence that Chiarelli will pull the trigger here, if not this week, certainly in the off-season here. “His conversations have kept going with a number of teams and I think he’ll get that done.” http://www.todaysslapshot.com/from-the-ice/lebrun-chiarelli-will-get-defenseman/ Edited June 27, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 He probably will make a trade, but can you imagine if yet ANOTHER summer went by and the Oilers still didn't trade one of these young "core" forwards to fill a need? Seems like every summer there's talk of a trade with them, and it doesn't get done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 I got a bunch of bids for some landscaping work this spring, a few of which were totally ridiculous coming in thousands of dollars higher than what I ultimately paid. In essence these guys were just telling me with their exorbitant quotes that they didn't need the work, but if I was willing to get butt raped then they'll be more than happy to oblige. Same thing going on here I suppose, but they should have at least asked for Eichel. Yup, thats a common move in the construction trades, a bid thats much higher then the reasonable average is basically the company telling you in a nice way that they are too busy to do the work, unless you want to grossly overpay for it. Some will also do this to keep their name on a bidders list for future bids but remove themselves from that bid Basically its Minnys way of telling all the GMs interested that they dont want to deal the player, unless your willing to grossly overpay. The Wild may not be actively shopping the players, but that doesn't stop other GMs from calling and asking what it would take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Reports are now that EDM is desperate to find a D-man and one of their top guys (likely Hall or RNH) will probably go in a deal. I know it'll probably be Shattenkirk or something, but my god, if Murray got Hall for Bogo+ that would be amazing. Does Bogo + 2017 1st get close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Reports are now that EDM is desperate to find a D-man and one of their top guys (likely Hall or RNH) will probably go in a deal. I know it'll probably be Shattenkirk or something, but my god, if Murray got Hall for Bogo+ that would be amazing. Does Bogo + 2017 1st get close? No chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Update: Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 1m1 minute ago EDM and NJD appear to be edging closer to completion of a trade involving Taylor Hall. Could be imminent. Not official yet. booooo No chance. I know, there were those reports about them liking him earlier on. It was wishfull thinking for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Sounds like Hall for Larsson with other stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Seems like a major underpayment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Seems like a major underpayment Apparently Hall is going to NJ, the exact details though... unknown Larsson and stuff going other way... no idea what stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) I don't think I was that far off with Bogo... http://public.tableau.com/shared/CHD83JMB3?:display_count=yes EDIT: I did that HERO chart wrong the first time. Larsson is indeed better than Bogo. I still don't think he's up to the level of Hall, though. Edited June 29, 2016 by sabills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Update: Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 1m1 minute ago EDM and NJD appear to be edging closer to completion of a trade involving Taylor Hall. Could be imminent. Not official yet. booooo I know, there were those reports about them liking him earlier on. It was wishfull thinking for sure. So Lucic to Oilers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Well, Hall must be a bigger cancer than we think if it's just a one for one deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 So Lucic to Oilers? I would bet money on it I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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