sicknfla Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I would tend to believe we would be in the 170 range next year if all goes well (meaning McEichel). As for my lineup just keep in mind I was asked what I thought it could be if we drafted #3. I personally believe we will see this lineup: Kane - McEichel - Ennis Moulson - Reinhart - Girgensons Foligno - Grigorenko - Gionta Deslauriers - Larsson - Mitchell McCormick/Kaleta Gorges - Bogosian Zadorov - Risto Boychuk - Pysyk Weber/Stachan Niemi Jones I would say the top 2 lines should get about 130 goals with the bottom 2 lines chipping in another 40. I like that one better. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I like that one better. :) I made one more tweak, I took out Mitchell and put in Stempniak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Weave has me thinking about Wayne Simmonds, any chance we cod pry him out of Philly? He'd be the perfect solution to our grit problem, out Rw problem, and he's signed until 2019 IIRC Edited March 5, 2015 by WildComrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) I would tend to believe we would be in the 170 range next year if all goes well (meaning McEichel). As for my lineup just keep in mind I was asked what I thought it could be if we drafted #3. I personally believe we will see this lineup: Kane - McEichel - Ennis Moulson - Reinhart - Girgensons Foligno - Grigorenko - Gionta Deslauriers - Larsson - Stempniak McCormick/Kaleta Gorges - Bogosian Zadorov - Risto Boychuk - Pysyk Weber/Stachan Niemi Jones I would say the top 2 lines should get about 130 goals with the bottom 2 lines chipping in another 40. I've said before, there is no way that we are starting 3 rookie centers at the beginning of the season. edit- And no way we start 4 rooks. Edited March 5, 2015 by weave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I was being generous with 40-50. That current group doesn't have 20 so far this year. So if the top 2 lines produce 120 which is being VERY generous based on what I am looking at that means that Ligers lineup is good for 140-170 goals next year. That would have us pretty much where we are right now - last place or close to it. This is also why I think we do not pick Hannifan. With what we already have on D, and our lack of organizational scoring threats, he has to flip that pick if we have it. He has no choice. Murray's job is going to get real interesting if we don't bring this McEichel gig to fruition. Do any teams' 3-4 lines score that many? I don't have time to run the numbers, but even 40 goals means those six guys average 6+ goals each. That seems high to me especially when you probably have 2-3 guys that only pick up 2-3 goals each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Weave has me thinking about Wayne Simmonds, any chance we cod pry him out of Philly? He'd be the perfect solution to our grit problem, out Rw problem, and he's signed until 2019 IIRC I personally don't think we have a grit problem I've said before, there is no way that we are starting 3 rookie centers at the beginning of the season. edit- And no ###### way we start 4 rooks. Okay so move Ennis and Girgesons to center and the centers to the wing for the first 42 games. UFA RW list from November http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2014/11/25/2015-nhl-free-agents-unrestricted-right-wingers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I personally don't think we have a grit problem Okay so move Ennis and Girgesons to center and the centers to the wing for the first 42 games. UFA RW list from November http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2014/11/25/2015-nhl-free-agents-unrestricted-right-wingers/ We have a scoring problem way more than we have a grit problem. Heck the entire blueline has grit in spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) I personally don't think we have a grit problem http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2014/11/25/2015-nhl-free-agents-unrestricted-right-wingers/ It doesn't hurt to add more though. Plus Simmonds can score consistently, and the RW UFA list is ugly. Simmonds, IMO, is a dream scenario for us. His price is what worries me Edited March 5, 2015 by WildComrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I've said before, there is no way that we are starting 3 rookie centers at the beginning of the season. edit- And no ###### way we start 4 rooks. You keep saying it, but we don't want to hear it :D It doesn't hurt to add more though. Plus Simmonds can score consistently, and the RW UFA list is ugly. Simmonds, IMO, is a dream scenario for Silverberg might be a cheaper option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresFanInRochester Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I like that one better. :) I see what happened, and, for what it's worth, I did calm down. Tank on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I see what happened, and, for what it's worth, I did calm down. Tank on. :beer: have a beer and tank on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I personally don't think we have a grit problem Okay so move Ennis and Girgesons to center and the centers to the wing for the first 42 games. UFA RW list from November http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2014/11/25/2015-nhl-free-agents-unrestricted-right-wingers/ My money is on Reinhart spending most of his rookie year in Rochester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 You keep saying it, but we don't want to hear it :D Silverberg might be a cheaper option. Any chance there is a Silfverberg/GMTM connection from Ottawa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicknfla Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 My money is on Reinhart spending most of his rookie year in Rochester. I will be glad to take your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 My money is on Reinhart spending most of his rookie year in Rochester. I think so too. No way we load up the lineup with rookies down the middle. In his 9-game audition earlier in the season, it was clear he wasn't ready to handle the physical side of the game just yet. A half year in the AHL would help him greatly in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 My money is on Reinhart spending most of his rookie year in Rochester. I will be stunned. I not only expect him to play with the big boys, I expect him to play considerable minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Filip Forsberg... 2013/14 season 13games, 1g, 4a Filip Forsberg... 2014/15 season 65games, 21g, 31a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotentPowerPlay22 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Filip Forsberg... 2013/14 season 13games, 1g, 4a Filip Forsberg... 2014/15 season 65games, 21g, 31a This was one of the worst trades ever by the Capitals! What the heck were they thinking? Erat for Forsberg. Ugh! Caps GM should have been fired for this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) This was one of the worst trades ever by the Capitals! What the heck were they thinking? Erat for Forsberg. Ugh! Caps GM should have been fired for this trade. He was. Edited March 5, 2015 by Tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Filip Forsberg... 2013/14 season 13games, 1g, 4a Filip Forsberg... 2014/15 season 65games, 21g, 31a That's nice, but he's not Reinhart. And I think GMTM has shown that he prefers patience and development in his prospects. Edited March 5, 2015 by weave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 First, Reinhart is not only an exceptional offensive talent, he is beyond his years when it comes to defensive responsibility and awareness. Second, players chosen second overall don't spend a lot of time in the AHL. Murray will be tremendously disappointed if Samson is not a major contributor next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 That's nice, but he's not Reinhart. And I think GMTM has shown that he prefers patience and development in his prospects. You're right, Reinhart has shown more talent in his first post draft year than Forsberg did. Tim Murray has handled prospect the way he should in a rebuild. I will say it for the 1 millionth time, Samson Reinhart will be a Buffalo Sabres next year and will contribute. I will bet my actual screen name on. - LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) If you lose will you change your name to Delilah? Edited March 6, 2015 by Djuda Chekhov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 If you lose will you change your name to Delilah? That just happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) If you lose will you change your name to Delilah? Well I have to stand behind my words so yes, I will maintain the name until the 2016 (edit:) draft, unless Samson is promoted permanently, prior to game 41. Edited March 6, 2015 by Ligerovich 4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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