Hoss Posted February 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Murray says he's received some more calls today. Said teams are definitely interested in our players. Also said that he'll never impede in coaching decisions. That's all Nolan. Said all of the UFAs won't be traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) . Said all of the UFAs won't be traded. Nobody was OK with that Meszaros for a bag of pucks and one free round of jersey scrubbing from the laundry squad? And WTF on the Horton/Clarkson trade? Edited February 26, 2015 by Djuda Chekhov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I would have done the Horton for their first. He sits on ltir forever ala Pronger. Horton may never play again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I would have done the Horton for their first. He sits on ltir forever ala Pronger. Horton may never play again. Have we EVER seen a team give up a major asset to get another team to take their contract? It's said here often, but I don't think that's how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 If Horton retires does his full contract value return in terms of the salary cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 If Horton retires does his full contract value return in terms of the salary cap? Yes, which is why guys like Pronger and Savard haven't retired yet. NHL should close that loophole by allowing them to retire and still receive the remainder of their contract off the books if there's a legitimate debilitating injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Yes, which is why guys like Pronger and Savard haven't retired yet. NHL should close that loophole by allowing them to retire and still receive the remainder of their contract off the books if there's a legitimate debilitating injury. Yea especially with Savard, I mean he literally had to quit for his life's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Are you guys kidding? A tune from the mid-70's that has not proved accurate yet. Did they ever do an updated version? I thought maybe there was one, but can't remember. This gets my vote ... There were at least 2 remakes. 1980 and 1993. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Since Horton is from Welland, can TPegs offer him a ridiculously overpaid FO Job with the Sabres, on the condition he immediately retires from the NHL to really screw with the Leafs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I may be wrong but I don't think his retiring would effect anything at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I may be wrong but I don't think his retiring would effect anything at all. I thought if he retired his salary is moved from LTIR back onto the active cap, this prevents teams from signing long term contracts knowing that the player would retire before it is completely paid out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I thought if he retired his salary is moved from LTIR back onto the active cap, this prevents teams from signing long term contracts knowing that the player would retire before it is completely paid out. I believe because of his age when signing and because it wasn't a front loaded deal signed before last CBA, none of that applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Murray says he's received some more calls today. Said teams are definitely interested in our players. Also said that he'll never impede in coaching decisions. That's all Nolan. Said all of the UFAs won't be traded. I'm sorry, this is nitpicky , but I'm interested: did Murray mean "not all of the UFAs will be traded" or "none of the UFAs will be traded?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I'm sorry, this is nitpicky ######, but I'm interested: did Murray mean "not all of the UFAs will be traded" or "none of the UFAs will be traded?" Actually said they probably wouldn't all be traded, thus implying that some of them would. No big shocking news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Mkay. I'm good with that. I guess I'd have been surprised if he came out today and said no more UFA movement. Probably disappointed somewhat too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I believe because of his age when signing and because it wasn't a front loaded deal signed before last CBA, none of that applies. Makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Have we EVER seen a team give up a major asset to get another team to take their contract? It's said here often, but I don't think that's how it works.Throw in Connor Hurley, and Varone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) I'm sorry, this is nitpicky ######, but I'm interested: did Murray mean "not all of the UFAs will be traded" or "none of the UFAs will be traded?" What do you really think? :P The "not all." Forgot a word. I believe because of his age when signing and because it wasn't a front loaded deal signed before last CBA, none of that applies. I believe you may be right. But Horton won't retire. He doesn't get his money if he retires. Edited February 27, 2015 by Tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Stan Bowman told reporters that he's close to a trade... Let the fun begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 GMTM indicated he got a call about a player he never suspected. I can only think it was Hodgson, my guess it was Toronto or Columbus prior to their deal with one of their albatross contracts they just swapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 GMTM indicated he got a call about a player he never suspected. I can only think it was Hodgson, my guess it was Toronto or Columbus prior to their deal with one of their albatross contracts they just swapped.Vinz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Toronto is on Vinz's no-trade list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Well this is a nice and fun low blow. But it wasn't a tweet. He said it on air and I was being nice enough to list what he said for everybody else to read. I guess I won't be doing that anymore. Sorry if the petty comments about guys like Bob McKenzie/Darren Dreger (who are the absolute best at what they do) frustrate me. I don't see the reason to complain because they said something that's obvious to some and then to insult those who want to post what they hear/see Dreger/McKenzie and others say. That's my issue here. I get pissed because somebody says something pointless and, really, baseless, and then somebody else takes the opportunity to complain about the poster of the original info... There seems to be a real issue with actual information around here sometimes. I enjoy posting what these guys say so everybody else gets the chance to see it and respond with legitimate thoughts... When somebody comes back with a complaint about what was said then it just takes the discussion in an entirely different direction and neutralizes any of the actual value of what was posted. And to complain about those who "repeat" what was said? Cmon now... Add some value to the discussion. For what it's worth... I was talking about you repeating what is generally a comment from Bobbo that had little substance to begin with. I do think it's ridiculous. However, I'm not bothered by it. You are in the media vein, you are an aspiring journalist (aspiring to more than now, I'm not judging your accomplishments, you are a journalist right?) and I think that journalists, especially sports ones who have this desire to be in the NHL trade stream of consciousness will lean towards posting something like that more so than say your average hockey fan. It's not an indictment of you. We all do what we do. If repeating substanceless comments from Bobbo is the worst you do... :) And I love Bobbo.. I love Dreger. I'm not bashing on them either. On with the show! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 We need to unload this team. We cannot afford to miss out on this tank.Ennis + Stewart to BOS for Subban + 1st unprotectedMoulson to CHI for 1st + prospectMitchell to anyone who gives us a random prospectNeuvirth for ANYTHING but hopefully Vancouver for a 4th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 We need to unload this team. We cannot afford to miss out on this tank. Ennis + Stewart to BOS for Subban + 1st unprotected Moulson to CHI for 1st + prospect Mitchell to anyone who gives us a random prospect Neuvirth for ANYTHING but hopefully Vancouver for a 4th I think Steward, Mitchell, and Neuvirth won't return from FLA. Hackett still has to get his 8 games in or we risk losing him to FAgency. March promises to be every bit as bad as our January. Ennis and Moulson are keepers. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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