Jsixspd Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 What did he say about Shattenkirk? Here it is - poorly written because it's copied from a blog or live chat - written like gamer d00d chat - lol. But the gist is that he mentioned Shattenkirk letting Kane get by. http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/22404-all-about-the-st-louis-blues/page__st__400#entry578379 I'll take both on the Sabres, please. Hmmmm!!!! I'm trying to imagine how I'd react if both those guys were signed for the Sabres 2014-15 season. That's a real moral dilemma right there. :) They wouldn't be anywhere near as effective on the Sabres, because the Sabres don't enjoy the same "Special Relationship" as the Bruins do with Bettman and the NHL. They'd probably be penalized and suspended into futility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Yup, im not too disappointed about it. Blues fans are livid which makes it better. Cant we still get the 1st if the Blues trade the rights to Ryan Miller? Either way i don't think its a major major loss. were looking at not having a very late 1st rounder vs a mid 2nd plus the 1st pick of the 3rd? id rather have the 1st rounder but not devastating He's a UFA, they don't have his rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 A lot of good Miller did them. I'd say our haul at the deadline was o.k. considering. We got Halak (flipped for Neuvirth), Stewart, Carrier, a 2015 1st round pick, and a conditional 2014 3rd rounder for two guys who ultimately didn't end up being difference makers for the Blues. I'd say the Sabres won this trade! I wonder if Murray will try to resign Ott... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 GMTM definitely won that trade - Ryan Miller's best days are behind him. He turns 34 in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 When people look back on this series I hope they remember the Blues complete inability to take a game over. They never once indicated that they were capable of winning a game against Chicago without Miller playing above his statistically predictable level. I knew the Blues didn't have the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Not getting this years first, at least we get their first next year. Maybe they'll tank and we'll get an extra lottery chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 When people look back on this series I hope they remember the Blues complete inability to take a game over. They never once indicated that they were capable of winning a game against Chicago without Miller playing above his statistically predictable level. I knew the Blues didn't have the offense. Agreed, it was a crap-shoot that they even won the first two games they did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Here it is - poorly written because it's copied from a blog or live chat - written like gamer d00d chat - lol. But the gist is that he mentioned Shattenkirk letting Kane get by. http://forums.sabres...400#entry578379 Thanks. I wonder if the Blues would be interested in signing Halak during the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabre snipe Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 He's a UFA, they don't have his rights Oh, my bad…still trying to figure out how all of this stuff plays out. When we traded for Ehrhoffs rights then was he still an RFA or did he have a year left on his contract? i just assumed it was the same situation as Millers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 He's a UFA, they don't have his rights Not true. They hold his rights until he hits free agency and can trade him before then. Just like Ehrhoff was traded twice right before he became a UFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Agreed, it was a crap-shoot that they even won the first two games they did Unfortunately the Ryan Miller blew it narrative is already in full swing so there will be no convincing people otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Not true. They hold his rights until he hits free agency and can trade him before then. Just like Ehrhoff was traded twice right before he became a UFA. Do you think any team is going to do that? I know it happened with Ehroff, but how often does that happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 People should start giving more credit to Joel Quenneville for being a really good coach. The guy is the third winningest coach in NHL history (6th winningest playoff coach) and is only 55. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 People should start giving more credit to Joel Quenneville for being a really good coach. The guy is the third winningest coach in NHL history (6th winningest playoff coach) and is only 55. Absolutely. Sure he's got a pretty solid team to work with but no one wins with talent alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 The entire Chicago organization should get props. Unfortunately the Ryan Miller blew it narrative is already in full swing so there will be no convincing people otherwise. ESPN is leading the charge - the feature headline at the ESPN NHL page reads; The Blackhawks took advantage of poor play by Ryan Miller to bounce the Blues in a big way People should start giving more credit to Joel Quenneville for being a really good coach. The guy is the third winningest coach in NHL history (6th winningest playoff coach) and is only 55. Yep, great coach! Chicago is just a solid organization, top to bottom. I've said for several years that we should be using them as a model for building for the future. Oh, and also in the sub-headline for the Blackhawk win - Craig Custance - "Blues should let Miller sign elsewhere " http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/craig-custance/post?id=2450 I would be astonished if Miller is still there in the fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 NHL Public Relations @PR_NHL The @NHLBlackhawks have improved to 11-2 in potential series-clinching games since 2009, incl. 5 straight victories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 I wonder if Tim Murray will be answering any calls from St. Louis tomorrow? If caller ID shows a St. Louis area code, he'll probably just let it go to voice mail, or let his Sexcretary screen for him. Like a car salesman who avoids calls from a customer who bought a lemon. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 The Blues are what it looks like when you do a really good job building a team and don't have any elite offensive players. When Steen, Backes, Tarasenko, and Oshie are supposed to be lugging the mail offensively you can run into trouble. This series is a strong argument for the Tank strategy. St Louis tried to build around depth. They lost to the team built around a 1st overall pick and a 3rd overall pick. Let's hope the Sabres hit some home runs with their high picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 This series is a strong argument for the Tank strategy. St Louis tried to build around depth. They lost to the team built around a 1st overall pick and a 3rd overall pick. Let's hope the Sabres hit some home runs with their high picks. I really hope we get to see Colorado/Chicago in round 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 This series is a strong argument for the Tank strategy. St Louis tried to build around depth. They lost to the team built around a 1st overall pick and a 3rd overall pick. Let's hope the Sabres hit some home runs with their high picks. I'm not sure about that. Take a look at how Pittsburgh is doing, let alone how they'd fair against the Blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 I'm not sure about that. Take a look at how Pittsburgh is doing, let alone how they'd fair against the Blues Pittsburgh is dying at the hands of Bylsma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Pittsburgh is dying at the hands of Bylsma. 2/3 of their highest picks are losing that series. Crosby has done nothing, and Fleury has been abysmal. Bylsma hasn't been a helper of any sorts, but at some point you have to blame your players. They already fired one coach for Crosby/Fleury/Malkin, at what point does it become their fault and not the coaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 2/3 of their highest picks are losing that series. Crosby has done nothing, and Fleury has been abysmal. Bylsma hasn't been a helper of any sorts, but at some point you have to blame your players. They already fired one coach for Crosby/Fleury/Malkin, at what point does it become their fault and not the coaches? I think Pitt is still plenty in this series and that unfortunately for my personal case against Fleury he has been pretty good. But I think Bylsma is to blame for everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Give the Hawks their props. They played like a Stanley Cup champion in that series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 I really hope we get to see Colorado/Chicago in round 2. I think Chicago would smoke them. 5 games max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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