Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I don't think that's entirely fair, though... no denying that artistry / style / flair counts in all of those events, but there's also a huge technical aspect as far as level of difficulty for each jump / trick / etc attempted. So while it's not as clear-cut as a hockey score, it's not entirely subjective, either. Other than the possible corruption of judges, you can usually "feel" when someone is making a medal level skate. They are just so crisp and balanced. Athletes and a sport for sure. Speaking of sports, Westminster show on tonight and tomorrow. That is on my bucket list for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnkirishone Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Other than the possible corruption of judges, you can usually "feel" when someone is making a medal level skate. They are just so crisp and balanced. Athletes and a sport for sure. Speaking of sports, Westminster show on tonight and tomorrow. That is on my bucket list for sure. me and the pup gonna have to record olympics i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I don't think that's entirely fair, though... no denying that artistry / style / flair counts in all of those events, but there's also a huge technical aspect as far as level of difficulty for each jump / trick / etc attempted. So while it's not as clear-cut as a hockey score, it's not entirely subjective, either. I understand the multipliers and the technical stuff. There are difficult ballet jumps. There are difficult double bass passages. Still not a sport. Does it help if I include diving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodork Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I understand the multipliers and the technical stuff. There are difficult ballet jumps. There are difficult double bass passages. Still not a sport. Does it help if I include diving? Honestly, I take more umbrage at the inclusion of skiing and snowboarding than I do figure skating, but I'm using the same argument for them all. And I get the art thing, but a difficult bass passage is technical skill and not athleticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) Honestly, I take more umbrage at the inclusion of skiing and snowboarding than I do figure skating, but I'm using the same argument for them all. And I get the art thing, but a difficult bass passage is technical skill and not athleticism. You pull those strings back, put your thigh into the body of the instrument, etc. sometime and tell me it doesn't take strength. Or hold a 2.5 foot bow at one end with your fingertips for three hours. Let me know. I have the same problems with "style"-oriented snow sports, by the way. Edited February 11, 2014 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodork Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 You pull those strings back, put your thigh into the body of the instrument, etc. sometime and tell me it doesn't take strength. Or hold a 2.5 foot bow at one end with your fingertips for three hours. Let me know. I have the same problems with "style"-oriented snow sports, by the way. I've argued for years that marching band requires athleticism (former clarinet player), but I'd have a hard time equating it to figure skating, snowboarding, etc. <shrugs> Agree to disagree, I guess. Mostly semantics, anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Other than the possible corruption of judges, you can usually "feel" when someone is making a medal level skate. They are just so crisp and balanced. Athletes and a sport for sure. Speaking of sports, Westminster show on tonight and tomorrow. That is on my bucket list for sure. I've been. It's a trip. Just like when you can feel a medal skate, when you see them in person, you just know which dog is going to win. They have a shimmer or aura and you just know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I've been. It's a trip. Just like when you can feel a medal skate, when you see them in person, you just know which dog is going to win. They have a shimmer or aura and you just know. That's sweet. I am a big fan of rescue dogs, but appreciate the sport and class of it. The human personalities seem to have been nailed in the movie Best in Show. I'm pretty good at picking a favorite on TV. I loved the bloodhound tonight and he seemed easy to pick. The last group was 7 or 8 with the only standout being the Cavalier Spaniel. I think they gave it to the Miniature Pincher on reputation. I have to go one year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I've argued for years that marching band requires athleticism (former clarinet player), but I'd have a hard time equating it to figure skating, snowboarding, etc. <shrugs> Agree to disagree, I guess. Mostly semantics, anyhow. Definitely semantics. I'll say that marching band can be athletic. Ever seen the Ohio State Marching Band? I have friends who march with them, they have grueling practices/conditioning, and I was lucky enough to perform with them once. Holy crap, those kids are in good shape. As a former section leader (sax) and occasional drummer (quads), I can say it was tough- tougher to play the wind instruments because circular breathing, control, marching, blah blah blah. And again, under my super broad definition, it's a sport :) Semantics shemantics. I played piano 15 years and though I would never call it a sport by traditional sense, yet I guess it fits my broad definition as well. I never hit the treadmill to get better at playing Rachmaninoff or Joplin. My main issue with the sport v non sport was the superiority complex. I think I'm past caring beyond that now haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodork Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Definitely semantics. I'll say that marching band can be athletic. Ever seen the Ohio State Marching Band? I have friends who march with them, they have grueling practices/conditioning, and I was lucky enough to perform with them once. Holy crap, those kids are in good shape. As a former section leader (sax) and occasional drummer (quads), I can say it was tough- tougher to play the wind instruments because circular breathing, control, marching, blah blah blah. And again, under my super broad definition, it's a sport :) Semantics shemantics. I played piano 15 years and though I would never call it a sport by traditional sense, yet I guess it fits my broad definition as well. I never hit the treadmill to get better at playing Rachmaninoff or Joplin. My main issue with the sport v non sport was the superiority complex. I think I'm past caring beyond that now haha :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Definitely semantics. I'll say that marching band can be athletic. Ever seen the Ohio State Marching Band? I have friends who march with them, they have grueling practices/conditioning, and I was lucky enough to perform with them once. Holy crap, those kids are in good shape. As a former section leader (sax) and occasional drummer (quads), I can say it was tough- tougher to play the wind instruments because circular breathing, control, marching, blah blah blah. And again, under my super broad definition, it's a sport :) Semantics shemantics. I played piano 15 years and though I would never call it a sport by traditional sense, yet I guess it fits my broad definition as well. I never hit the treadmill to get better at playing Rachmaninoff or Joplin. My main issue with the sport v non sport was the superiority complex. I think I'm past caring beyond that now haha NO superiority complex here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 NO superiority complex here. haha not you. I've seen it elsewhere though, which prompted my whole rant. Ah well, speed skating is on. Damn it looks like fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Aren't judges just as powerful as referees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 haha not you. I've seen it elsewhere though, which prompted my whole rant. Ah well, speed skating is on. Damn it looks like fun. The long track stuff looks so peaceful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 The long track stuff looks so peaceful. It really does. They look so incredibly zen until the final lap and suddenly their eyes are bulging and you experience sympathetic lung burn for them. But that ice... oh man, it looks so inviting and beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Saw my cousin tonight walking in with the U.S team, prety cool moment for her. Now if she won a medal, wow....... She just qualified for the Semis and came in 2nd overall in the Quarters run!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 She just qualified for the Semis and came in 2nd overall in the Quarters run!! She made it to the Finals!! My whole family is crying their eyes out! She was one 100th of a second behind 1st place in Semis. No American has ever had a medal in this race - Go Sophie Caldwell!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 The US Men's curling team lost to China this morning. There might not be an Olympic athlete I despise more than skip John Shuster. The guy always squeaks out of US qualifying to make the team and has spent the last twelve years finding new ways to choke in the Olympics. Pete Fenson and his goatee are the better US skip and he lead Shuster to bronze in 2006. Choke choke choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 She made it to the Finals!! My whole family is crying their eyes out! She was one 100th of a second behind 1st place in Semis. No American has ever had a medal in this race - Go Sophie Caldwell!!!!!!!!!! Well, she clipped someone's pole in the Finals and fell, ugh. She ended up 6th and it was the best finish for an American in the history of the event - not too shabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Well, she clipped someone's pole in the Finals and fell, ugh. She ended up 6th and it was the best finish for an American in the history of the event - not too shabby. Hey that's cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Well, she clipped someone's pole in the Finals and fell, ugh. She ended up 6th and it was the best finish for an American in the history of the event - not too shabby. That's pretty awesome. Congrats to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Watching Russia v Japan in Women's hockey. I can't believe they disallowed the JPN goal. It was in but they said nope. Still a pretty good game. Giving me something to do on my snow day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Watching Russia v Japan in Women's hockey. I can't believe they disallowed the JPN goal. It was in but they said nope. Still a pretty good game. Giving me something to do on my snow day. I can't believe it's only 1-1 in the 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Watching Russia v Japan in Women's hockey. I can't believe they disallowed the JPN goal. It was in but they said nope. Still a pretty good game. Giving me something to do on my snow day. Was that the goal JUDGE that determined it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Japan got screwed. Who wants to tell me figure skating isn't a sport because it's judged when a goal as obvious as the one Japan scored gets disallowed? Woof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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