IKnowPhysics Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I googled it again this morning and again didn't see Gorges on the roster at first glance. What the hell is going on? Am I now blind to all 26s? His hand is busted up, he might be on LTIR or something. TSN lists him as "out indefinitely." Don't know why that immediately kicks him off the team roster on their page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHawerchuk10 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 For being a "susperstar" he never made the Sabres a significantly better team. The best we could do was scratch and claw for 8th place every year. And, he hasn't/didn't make a ton of difference for the Isles. Those 4 first rounders from the Oilers would have done a lot more to rebuild this team that a (very talented) forward who doesn't put in a consistent effort every shift. It really didn't do much for Edmonton either, did it? I am always perplexed as to why people think of Vanek as "lazy" or didn't put a consistent effort in (not trying to pick on you, just see it differently). I can think of times he was late on the backcheck or went through hot/cold spells, sure, but that is the case for almost everyone. On average though, I thought his effort level was pretty good, and if anything, his weakness was that he got too down on himself. I just find it strange how people adhere to pre-conceived notions when their eyes tell them something different. Case in point: Zemgus comes back to the bench gassed, the majority of fans respond: "Wow, that guy is working hard". Vanek comes back to the bench tired, and the response is, "Vanek is out of shape", or "Does he smoke?". I honestly think it is only because one guy is out there taking the body, while the other guy is focusing his energy on beating defenders and setting up in front of the net. Throwing checks has better optics in terms of "hard work" I suppose. In any event....I needed to rant this morning.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Fed Up Islanders Fans Set To Lodge Protest Against Front Office Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Fed Up Islanders Fans Set To Lodge Protest Against Front Office Saturday 1. Interesting that it's the game against Buffalo. 2. Which Vanek trade is the one that they're upset about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 1. Interesting that it's the game against Buffalo. 2. Which Vanek trade is the one that they're upset about? The participants, some with bags over their heads and some carrying banners, plan to meet in the parking lot between the coliseum and the Marriott hotel between 4:30 p.m. and 5 p.m. wearing their Islanders jerseys inside out. According to Truszkowski, these are the chants that are scheduled… * With 16:00 remaining in every period, they will chant: WANG MUST SELL * With 12:00 remaining in every period, they will chant: SNOW MUST GO * With 8:00 remaining in every period, they will chant: FIRE CAPPY * With 4:00 remaining in every period, they will chant: WE WANT ANSWERS This will be one to watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Fed Up Islanders Fans Set To Lodge Protest Against Front Office Saturday Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 The participants, some with bags over their heads and some carrying banners, plan to meet in the parking lot between the coliseum and the Marriott hotel between 4:30 p.m. and 5 p.m. wearing their Islanders jerseys inside out. According to Truszkowski, these are the chants that are scheduled… * With 16:00 remaining in every period, they will chant: WANG MUST SELL * With 12:00 remaining in every period, they will chant: SNOW MUST GO * With 8:00 remaining in every period, they will chant: FIRE CAPPY * With 4:00 remaining in every period, they will chant: WE WANT ANSWERS This will be one to watch! Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Fed Up Islanders Fans Set To Lodge Protest Against Front Office Saturday As a demonstration of solidarity with The Islanders Fans, Murray should insist that they keep their first round pick this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I hope Islander fans are about as successful with this as the Isles are with hockey. In absolutely no circumstances do I want them to fire Snow before we get to use their pick, whether that's in 2014 or 2015. After we get the pick, then whatever, good for the fans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) I hope Islander fans are about as successful with this as the Isles are with hockey. In absolutely no circumstances do I want them to fire Snow before we get to use their pick, whether that's in 2014 or 2015. After we get the pick, then whatever, good for the fans! Snow's an idiot, sure. But the root cause is the stupid, stupid owner. Even if the crowd wants it, he's not going to sell, at least not before they move into their new (equally silly) digs. So even if Wang fires Snow, he would likely hire someone equally as incompetent. Maybe Anders Nilsson. Edited March 11, 2014 by IKnowPhysics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) I hope Islander fans are about as successful with this as the Isles are with hockey. In absolutely no circumstances do I want them to fire Snow before we get to use their pick, whether that's in 2014 or 2015. After we get the pick, then whatever, good for the fans! I fail to understand this comment. The Sabres get a pick from the Isles regardless of who the GM is. Edited March 11, 2014 by sizzlemeister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I fail to understand this comment. The Sabres get a pick from the Isles regardless of who the GM is. If they fire Snow, then defer the pick to 2015, there's a chance the new GM could inject some basic competence into that organization and make sure the 2015 1st round pick we get from them is only a mid first rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) If they fire Snow, then defer the pick to 2015, there's a chance the new GM could inject some basic competence into that organization and make sure the 2015 1st round pick we get from them is only a mid first rounder. He said "whether that's in 2014 or 2015..." Edited March 12, 2014 by sizzlemeister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 He said "whether that's in 2014 or 2015..." I think it's the same point. The Isles getting a new GM at any point before we can use that pick hurts our chances of getting maximum value for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I think it's the same point. The Isles getting a new GM at any point before we can use that pick hurts our chances of getting maximum value for it. A new GM is going to help their record this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 A new GM is going to help their record this season? There could be a short-term play better/harder boost for the players, I mean we've seen it here. More importantly, I'd be concerned that a different GM would make the "right" choice with the draft pick...for example, I could easily see Snow deferring the pick to next year even if that leaves the Isles with pick #10 this year. He's just that incompetent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 But you said... forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 But you said... forget it. I just re-read what I wrote, and clearly I'm incapable of typing a coherent thought, and my example sucked. So scratch my last post and let me try this again. I'm much much much more concerned with Snow getting fired, the Isles deferring, and the new GM making enough of an improvement to make the Sabres pick in the mid-teens, as opposed to a high lottery pick. With respect to the possibility we get the 2014 pick, even a 2 win "boost" from a house cleaning might be the difference in picking #4 or #7. So from a Sabres perspective, I can't see any scenario where we are better off with Snow getting fired...unless the new guy is somehow worse than Snow, which would be really impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 There's a very good possibility with Regiers history with the Islanders that he becomes their new G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 There's a very good possibility with Regiers history with the Islanders that he becomes their new G.M. Great. He'll trade Nabokov for Ovechkin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 There's a very good possibility with Regiers history with the Islanders that he becomes their new G.M. I was thinking this as well. I think there's also a possibility he actually turns down that job. He's smart enough to know how ###### that situation is. He may also (rightfully, I think) believe that he'll get other offers at some point. Maybe not Calgary, although he's been spotted having conversations with Burke, but somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 There's a very good possibility with Regiers history with the Islanders that he becomes their new G.M. Now that is a helluva call. I was thinking this as well. I think there's also a possibility he actually turns down that job. He's smart enough to know how ###### that situation is. He may also (rightfully, I think) believe that he'll get other offers at some point. Maybe not Calgary, although he's been spotted having conversations with Burke, but somewhere. Anything is possible, but I'd be very surprised if Darcy turned down the job if offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I was thinking this as well. I think there's also a possibility he actually turns down that job. He's smart enough to know how ###### that situation is. He may also (rightfully, I think) believe that he'll get other offers at some point. Maybe not Calgary, although he's been spotted having conversations with Burke, but somewhere. Being that he worked with the Sabres when the Rigas' were being put away, then the NHL, then Golisano and lastly Pegula, I don't know if the Islanders situation would scare him. The upside of that job is that they already have Tavares, and either this year or next they should have a top 5 selection as well. And as much criticism as he receives here, he does have trading Gaustad for a first on his resume, along with the fleecing of Garth Snow. I know that trade track record doesn't address building a team, but those two wins alone should be enough to get an interview. From the start of his tenure, he lost 3 conference finals, lost the Cup once, winning the Presidents trophy as well. For teams that haven't had a sniff of playoff success like that, that resume is appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 There's a very good possibility with Regiers history with the Islanders that he becomes their new G.M. I think they have some pieces. Tavares, Strome, Okposo, Grabner, neilson, Bailey, Nelson. They desperately need D and goaltending but both can be addressed through Free Agency . Lots of scoring potential so they can focus on improving the D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 The start of Thomas Vanek‘s time as a Canadien hasn’t been great — the team has lost all three games with him in the lineup, and he’s only managed to register one assist. According to Habs head coach Michel Therrien, Vanek needs to change his style of play for the team to have more success. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/14/therrien-vanek-must-make-some-adjustments-to-his-game/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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