deluca67 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Saw a piece on that Justin Schultz last night. Anyone interested in seeing the Sabres take a run at him? Not often a talented 22 year old hits the free agent market. I like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Saw a piece on that Justin Schultz last night. Anyone interested in seeing the Sabres take a run at him? Not often a talented 22 year old hits the free agent market. I like the idea. Some others around here have mentioned him as someone they'd like to see. Personally, I just want a player I can call Sergeant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 And where are we going to put him, and why do we want to sign a 22 year old who has proven nothing and already wanted more than 1 NHL team were offering. The kid has 'diva' written all over him. He'll get a massive contract and underperform. I think this team has the ability to make it and we have a better chance than quite a lot of the powerhouses, as we saw with the Kings. I know his old and is playing for a chance for the cup but surely thats more reason to sign him. He has the attitude we need. He can't get a big contract, as he must sign an entry level one. He will be a decent player, although why he ###### Anaheim over is something I would ask him before I signed him. But signing him wont happen, he will sign with Vancouver/Edmonton/Toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 He can't get a big contract, as he must sign an entry level one. He will be a decent player, although why he ###### Anaheim over is something I would ask him before I signed him. But signing him wont happen, he will sign with Vancouver/Edmonton/Toronto Yer the Anahiem thing is too much of a question for me. We have Myers, Ehrhoff, Regehr, Leopold, Sekera, Weber, McNabb and Brennan all ready for NHL action. I'd trade Leopold and keep the others as our top 6 anyway. Getting back to my point I'm sure he'll sign with Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chileanseabass Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Yeah, money isn't the issue with Schultz. He wants ice time, and he won't find that in Buffalo. I wouldn't be surprised if Doan goes to Chicago (if he leaves PHX). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 And where are we going to put him, and why do we want to sign a 22 year old who has proven nothing and already wanted more than 1 NHL team were offering. The kid has 'diva' written all over him. He'll get a massive contract and underperform. The level of prospect he is is greater than any defensive prospect the Sabres have in the system. Under the CBA, Schultz will be restricted to a two-year, two-way entry-level contract with a maximum salary of about $925,000 US a season. Players aged 22 or 23 must sign entry-level contracts for their first two seasons. http://www.cbc.ca/sp...nt.html?cmp=rss Does anyone know how it works with bonuses though? Can he end up with an NHL cap hit over $3M like Nugent-Hopkins etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 The level of prospect he is is greater than any defensive prospect the Sabres have in the system. Yes, but not by a whole lot. He's got a little higher offensive ceiling than Pysyk, but other than that, they're rated pretty similarly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 The level of prospect he is is greater than any defensive prospect the Sabres have in the system. http://www.cbc.ca/sp...nt.html?cmp=rss Does anyone know how it works with bonuses though? Can he end up with an NHL cap hit over $3M like Nugent-Hopkins etc? My understanding is that bonuses count against the cap. If I recall correctly, Myers entry-level contact was 3 years with 850K salary and 450K bonuses (or something like that) for a cap hit of 1.3 million per season. Nugent-Hopkins was a #1 pick so his salary and bonuses were very high compared to Myers. Schultz would not get a Nugent-Hopkins (i.e. #1 pick) contract, IMO. So, the cap hit / salary structure would likely be similar to Myers first contract, again IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I guess what I'm asking is the base salary entry level contract isn't the only piece of the negotiation. So some team could offer him a "massive" contract in the form of a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I guess what I'm asking/saying is the base salary entry level contract isn't the only piece of the negotiation. So some team could offer him a "massive" contract in the form of a bonus. Sure, nothing (as far as I know) preventing a team from doing that. I don't think it will happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Schultz is eligible for a two-year deal for the entry-level maximum salary. This includes a $925,000 base salary, including $92,500 signing bonus plus $2.85m in performance bonuses for a cap hit $3.775m, according to CapGeek.com Thats the last part from this http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399357 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 "the young defenceman has narrowed down his list of suitors to the Vancouver Canucks, Toronto Maple Leafs, New York Rangers, Ottawa Senators and Edmonton Oilers." Per TSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 "the young defenceman has narrowed down his list of suitors to the Vancouver Canucks, Toronto Maple Leafs, New York Rangers, Ottawa Senators and Edmonton Oilers." Per TSN Ottawa? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 The more I Read about schultz the more I dislike him. His a kid who's proven nothing and his demanding top 4 minutes, and to say in the west and in Canada. Even Lindros wasn't this bad. Gorram brat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 "the young defenceman has narrowed down his list of suitors to the Vancouver Canucks, Toronto Maple Leafs, New York Rangers, Ottawa Senators and Edmonton Oilers." Per TSN This from a young draftee who wouldn't sign with the team that drafted him. Something tells me this poop wouldn't pass my sniff test ... potential attitude problems? I wouldn't touch him with a 39 and a half foot pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 This from a young draftee who wouldn't sign with the team that drafted him. Something tells me this poop wouldn't pass my sniff test ... potential attitude problems? I wouldn't touch him with a 39 and a half foot pole. Thank you, +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Saw a piece on that Justin Schultz last night. Anyone interested in seeing the Sabres take a run at him? Not often a talented 22 year old hits the free agent market. I like the idea. I hope this dick goes to Toronto. That way I root against him more often. I can't describe what my level of hate would be if he did this to the Sabres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I'd rather Toronto not get him, Almost every scout has said this kid has talent and could be really good. I'd rather see him go to Edmonton or Vancouver cause I really don't care much about those teams, and with them being in the west, he won't really have any impact on the Sabres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I'd rather Toronto not get him, Almost every scout has said this kid has talent and could be really good. I'd rather see him go to Edmonton or Vancouver cause I really don't care much about those teams, and with them being in the west, he won't really have any impact on the Sabres you can have all the talent in the world, but if you've got the wrong attitude towards applying it, it won't make a lick of difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Bah, if it were two years ago when we were starving for defensemen, I doubt Schultz would be getting Schultzed on very much in our camp. Also, ohsnapnowwecan'tsigncrosbydoh! Nothing too surprising there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 you can have all the talent in the world, but if you've got the wrong attitude towards applying it, it won't make a lick of difference But this kid has not had any issues with applying his talent in the past, he is being viewed negatively by some because he didn't want to play for the team that drafted him and basically screwed over the Ducks. The teams he is meeting with, they are all places he would be happy to sign with, so I don't see there being any issues at all with him not giving a full effort on the ice. Bah, if it were two years ago when we were starving for defensemen, I doubt Schultz would be getting Schultzed on very much in our camp. Also, ohsnapnowwecan'tsigncrosbydoh! Nothing too surprising there. it could always be some kind of "Sign and Trade" type of deal, Probably for Roy, Stafford, and the key to teh deal, Brad Boyes rights til July 1 E1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 The more I Read about schultz the more I dislike him. His a kid who's proven nothing and his demanding top 4 minutes, and to say in the west and in Canada. Even Lindros wasn't this bad. Gorram brat. He is using the rules to his advantage. I can't blame him. He decided to stay at Wisconsin without a contract risking injury, I think that says a lot about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 But this kid has not had any issues with applying his talent in the past, he is being viewed negatively by some because he didn't want to play for the team that drafted him and basically screwed over the Ducks. The teams he is meeting with, they are all places he would be happy to sign with, so I don't see there being any issues at all with him not giving a full effort on the ice. it could always be some kind of "Sign and Trade" type of deal, Probably for Roy, Stafford, and the key to teh deal, Brad Boyes rights til July 1 E1 Also, it sounds like there is a signing bonanza for him, seems as though it would have been foolish on his part to sign with Anaheim simply because they drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Also, it sounds like there is a signing bonanza for him, seems as though it would have been foolish on his part to sign with Anaheim simply because they drafted him. well they only advantage he has is that he can go to his favorite team/which ever team he wants to. Financially theres no advantage because his deal is capped cause its an entry level deal. Its not like he wasn't signing in Anaheim cause he knows that there will be a bidding war for him and be able to cash in. Unless Anaheim wasn't willing to offer him the maximum allowed ofr an entry level deal, he will be paid the same anywhere he plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Also, it sounds like there is a signing bonanza for him, seems as though it would have been foolish on his part to sign with Anaheim simply because they drafted him. In a similar situation would you say the same thing about #12 and #14 in the 2012 NHL draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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